Antique, Vintage & Heirloom Cattleyas

[Royal]

Originally Posted by jcaesar

For example, those using loddigesii/harrisonae, dowiana/aurea to name a few. We really don't know which were used. Also, some hybridizers weren't always truthful when registering their crosses.

Well, you can't do much about the truthfulness of the registrants. But we have to assume that certain names are correct sometimes, unless there is good reason to believe that they're wrong. Following that path would lead us to theoretically question the provenance of any hybrid unless you made it yourself.

To check the parantage of a hybrid, check the RHS orchid register. You can search by grex or by parentage. Royal Horticultural Society - Plants: Registration of Orchids I was recently looking up C. Summer (1948). It goes waaayyy back and includes these oldies:

Falco (1915)
Nutley (1929)
Dupreana (1906)
Hardayana (1896)
Harold (1893)


[edit] Oh, RHS only shows hybrid registrations, but Orchidwiz (forum sponsor) can't be beat for cultivar and awards info.

[jcaesar]

Originally Posted by RoyalOrchids

To check the parantage of a hybrid, check the RHS orchid register. You can search by grex or by parentage.

I didn't have much luck with the RHS...I just did a search on C. Summer, but only found it used in crosses going back to about 2000, not the original cross. I entered the search "C. Summer". Is there something I'm missing? Thanks for the heads-up on OrchidWiz...I saw it before, but forgot the name.

Thanks.

[CoolPhrog]

Blc. Mrs. J. Leeman was a cross registered in 1901

[Zozzl]

Cookiemonster,

I guess I better ask if/what the grower does regarding virus screening. Owens orchids seems to have a lot of really nice plants but they are pretty expensive.

Bc Mrs. J. Leeman is a nice find Dana! Thanks. That one seems to be available and it really is pretty and unusual. Pat

[Paul]

I know older is "better" in this case, but would Slc Jewelbox (my preference being for 'Dark Waters' over 'Scherezade') -- registered in 1962 qualify ?

[jcaesar]

Originally Posted by Paul

I know older is "better" in this case, but would Slc Jewelbox (my preference being for 'Dark Waters' over 'Scherezade') -- registered in 1962 qualify ?

Hi Paul. I think it would definately qualify. Jewelbox was a highly awarded cross if I remember correctly. You don't see it as much anymore.

[peeweelovesbooks]

Sorry for the delay!!!

I will try to post at least one page from my catalog per day.

This is from the Jones & Scully 1971 catalog. Included are the descriptions listed therein.

Here you go:


Cattleya Bifoliate Hybrids

C. Alcandiae 'Nigrescens' x C. Enid 'Butterfly' : Uniformly spotted pastel lavender flowers; deeper lavender spade lip. Winter-Spring.

C. Alcandiae 'Nigrescens' x Lc. Golden Meteor 'Cinnabarina'. Lavender to art shades; dark lip. Excellent substance. Spring-summer.

C. Angel Walker (Little Angel 'June Delight' x walkeriana var. alba 'Orchidglade, FCC/AOS, CBE/SFOS) Pure white flowers with all of the characteristics of the exceptional species parent. (from this hybrid, a few clones have flowered with pale-pink lips. Compact, small growing plants. Winter-spring.

C. Audry Schubert (loddigessi 'Mendota' x Annie J. Lines. Rosy-mauve segments, lips with yellow throat. Fall-winter.

C. Beverly Boswell (Celia x December Snow)
Lovely, medium sized white flowers borne many tothe stem. Winter-Spring.

C. Candace Beth Shaffer (Louise Georgianna x Bow Bells) Fine summer flowering whites.

C. Caribbean (Margaret Stewart 'Green Clip' x aurantiaca 'Miami', CBM/AOS) Medium sized flowers in shades of yellow, lavender and art colors. Spring.

Slc. Cute Thing (C. aurantiaca ' Miami', CBM/AOS x Slc. Radians 'Sunburst') Small orange-red to red flowers. Small-growing plants. Winter-spring.

Blc. Dorothy Friedel (Blc. Freckles x C. bowrigiana) Stems of lavender flowers produced in clusters. Spring-Summer.

C. Eileen Wilson (Empress Bells x loddigesii 'Stanleyi, F.C.C./RHS) Medium-sized whites of heavy substance. Summer.

C. Elongata x Lc. Ludgate. A strong growing plant with attractive, dark reddish-mauve flowers. Fall.

C. Elongata x C. Guttata var. Leopoldii. Fine large, reddish-lavender flowers of heavy substance. Summer.

C. Evamay Patterson (Intertexta Juliettiae x. trianaei 'Broomhill'). Showy white flowers for christmas.

C. Frances Terwilliger (Bob Betts x C. alcandiae 'Nigrescens') Medium size, heavy substance, the flowers are barred or spotted. Bright, showy white lip. Winter.

C. Genreal Japhet (General Patton 'Orchidglade' (4n), A.M./AOS x Henrietta Japhet 'Orchidglade') Medium-large Whites of good shape. Plants ae good growers and free flowering. Winter-spring.

Lc. Golden Star (L. flava x C. Dubiosa) Cream to yellow star shapped flowers borne in clusters on tall stems. Winter.

C. Helena Garcia (Henrietta Japhet x aurantiaca 'Miami', CBM/AOS) Medium flowers in a color range from shining pink to sunset orange. Fragrant. Winter-spring.

C. Henrietta Japhet (Eucharis x loddigessi 'Stanleyi,' F.C.C. /RHS) One of the finest of the white bifoliate hybrids. Produces 6-8 flowers on the stem. Winter-spring.

[jcaesar]

Originally Posted by peeweelovesbooks

Sorry for the delay!!!

I will try to post at least one page from my catalog per day.

This is from the Jones & Scully 1971 catalog. Included are the descriptions listed therein.

Keep the lists coming! What really caught my eye was what they used in their crosses! There are some real classics there!

By any chance did you run across the "Imperial List"? (I may be confusing it with something called a "Criterion List").

[peeweelovesbooks]

Originally Posted by jcaesar

Keep the lists coming! What really caught my eye was what they used in their crosses! There are some real classics there!

By any chance did you run across the "Imperial List"? (I may be confusing it with something called a "Criterion List").

They have an "Imperial Collection" ---8 single spaced pages of orchid divisions. Per bulb price. the minimum order is 3 bulbs.

I quickly glanced at it and some bulbs cost as much as 150.00 each.

This is what the advertisement says:

"To adjust our inventory we are offering a 20% discount on the per bulb prices shown in RED! Such fantastic savings on Connoisseur Clones of Premium Quality are unheard of in the Industry, and, the more you buy, the more you Save."

*Indicated in parentheses is the year of the award, if known, and the points scored-if the awarding society bases its judging on the Point-score system. Flowering seasons named are for the western hemisphere.

[peeweelovesbooks]

Let me know if you guys want me to continue posting the names from the catalog.