At what point do you toss?

[bil]

Originally Posted by Leafmite

I would toss them. It sounds like this is a continuing issue. I have learned that the only plants worth fussing over are the ones that are either expensive, exceptional or difficult to replace (and valued in the collection). You can always treat yourself to something new.

Spot on. I do think it pays to have an arsenal of chems to hit the plants HARD and fast when the need arises. A good pesticide (I like Imacloprid as a systemic, and Chas 48 as a flamethrower -- ie a contact killer for bad cases) a serious fungicide like Mancozeb powder (which doubles up as a dessicant powder) and a serious mite killer.

I don't mess about with so called natural remedies, because those mostly just buy the bugs time to do real damage.

[Reeses]

Originally Posted by bil

Spot on. I do think it pays to have an arsenal of chems to hit the plants HARD and fast when the need arises. A good pesticide (I like Imacloprid as a systemic, and Chas 48 as a flamethrower -- ie a contact killer for bad cases) a serious fungicide like Mancozeb powder (which doubles up as a dessicant powder) and a serious mite killer.

What do you recommend, bil? I have been fortunate enough not to have many problems thus far, so I think part of the issue is that I was woefully unprepared when something did strike.

[Mocres]

Originally Posted by bil

Spot on. I do think it pays to have an arsenal of chems to hit the plants HARD and fast when the need arises. A good pesticide (I like Imacloprid as a systemic, and Chas 48 as a flamethrower -- ie a contact killer for bad cases) a serious fungicide like Mancozeb powder (which doubles up as a dessicant powder) and a serious mite killer.

I don't mess about with so called natural remedies, because those mostly just buy the bugs time to do real damage.

Bil, please, could you tell me the commercial names of those products? I'm in Spain, so I will probably be able to buy them, but I fing it very difficult to do it based purely on the generic name... Chemistry is not my thing.
Thaks a lot.

[bil]

Originally Posted by Mocres

Bil, please, could you tell me the commercial names of those products? I'm in Spain, so I will probably be able to buy them, but I fing it very difficult to do it based purely on the generic name... Chemistry is not my thing.
Thaks a lot.

Well, the firstt thing is, locate a place that sells fertiliser and pesticide in bulk quantities.

Now comes the problem. Spain has brought in rules that you have to go o a course ad get a phytosanitary card. I keep menaing to get one, but I have always had a problem in getting to a course.

So in the meantime, I have a friend with a card and he buys me stuff.

Te important thing is, that you get GENERIC stuff. Imacloporid comes under a different name every time I buy the stuff, so you ask for 'Imacloporid GENERICO porfa'. It is the difference between ppaying 100+ Euros for a litre of Cnfidor, or 25 euros for a litre of generico.
Chas 48 is the only name that stuff has. Do be careful as both will burn, but Chas is really nasty.
Mancozeb fungicide. Buy it by the 500g or kilo sack. It may well be 10 years worth, but it's so much cheaper than buying sachets..
The acaricide, I have no idea other than 'Acaricido generico'
Make notes of how much a litre to dose. Imacloporid is 1cc per litre, Chas 2ccs per litre, and I can't remember the amounts for the acaricide and the fungicide.

Keep them in a safe, cool dark area that is lockable.
I like to have one spray for them and another for herbicide (generic glyphosato) a fraction the cost of roundup and every bit as good.

Oh yah, I found a place that sells 20.20.20 fertiliser, by post, at 30 euros for ten kilos. (inc postage.) Tell me if you would like the address.