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Old 09-06-2021, 06:17 AM
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Hello,
Received curvifoilium and I am new to Vandacious.

It is wood mounted. Am I looking at two plants or this is how these plants look?



What would be the practical differences between hanging and wall-mounting the plant?

Should I hand upside down to get a display like this? Is that OK?

Please advice.
Thanks

EDIT : The temporary placement for time-being.
Will this wall mount wooden slab work for this plant
in long run?

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In nature, they grow upward as long as the aerial roots can find branches to attach to. In a way, they are slow-growing, climbing vines.
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You can grow almost all Vandas any way you wish, as long as you water accordingly. On a mount, you should water at least every other day (daily if the plant is placed full sun).

If you place it in a basket with some kind of mix, you can stretch the watering schedule a little. Here (New Jersey, USA), I use spaghnum in a basket, and water 2-3 times a week in summer, and 1-2 times a week in winter.
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Vandas/Ascocentrum need lots of water through the year. The roots should become completely wet and green at least once per day. They dry to a silvery white or light brown. The form new growths from the base of the old growths, so they make a clump eventually. If you leave them together the flower show is much more impressive. They will adjust to whichever orientation you give them, but will turn to grow upright with time.

The Dendrobium needs that kind of watering during the growing season. Once new growths have matured it can be watered 1-2 times per week through the winter, but for now the Ascocentrum and the Dendrobium can be watered the same.
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Vandas/Ascocentrum need lots of water through the year. The roots should become completely wet and green at least once per day. They dry to a silvery white or light brown. The form new growths from the base of the old growths, so they make a clump eventually. If you leave them together the flower show is much more impressive. They will adjust to whichever orientation you give them, but will turn to grow upright with time.

The Dendrobium needs that kind of watering during the growing season. Once new growths have matured it can be watered 1-2 times per week through the winter, but for now the Ascocentrum and the Dendrobium can be watered the same.
Thanks for the help
Can I give it morning sun? Till 11 AM. Will that be too much of light?
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Can I give it morning sun? Till 11 AM. Will that be too much of light?
It's hard to predict. With the temperatures you mentioned before I think it would be too hot. They are high light plants, but perhaps the plant just now came from a more shaded greenhouse, and must be adapted to more light. High light combined with high temperature can cook plants when the air is still. With breezy conditions the air will carry off the heat.

I live in a desert, at about 33.5 degrees North. By experiment I found I can grow Vanda seedlings in full sun with temperatures up to at least 40C / 104 F if I put a fan directly on the plants, but I don't do that - it's too risky. Against a sunny wall it will be even more warm. So there are many factors to consider.

If I wanted to move it to full morning sun, I would grow it under some 50% shade cloth or equivalent, then gradually give it more and more light, paying careful attention to the plant. Leaves should be light green with a tinge of yellow for best growth and flowering, and it should make new leaves steadily.
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It's hard to predict. With the temperatures you mentioned before I think it would be too hot. They are high light plants, but perhaps the plant just now came from a more shaded greenhouse, and must be adapted to more light. High light combined with high temperature can cook plants when the air is still. With breezy conditions the air will carry off the heat.

I live in a desert, at about 33.5 degrees North. By experiment I found I can grow Vanda seedlings in full sun with temperatures up to at least 40C / 104 F if I put a fan directly on the plants, but I don't do that - it's too risky. Against a sunny wall it will be even more warm. So there are many factors to consider.

If I wanted to move it to full morning sun, I would grow it under some 50% shade cloth or equivalent, then gradually give it more and more light, paying careful attention to the plant. Leaves should be light green with a tinge of yellow for best growth and flowering, and it should make new leaves steadily.
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that second plant in bloom looks terrible.
I'm assuming that is not your picture?
You seek inspiration from that? I mean look at the stem, have you ever seen anything more black and brown?
It's as long as my arm! That is shocking. It might be one last ditch blooming attempt but I'd be embarrassed to show that plant in the condition it is in, blooming or not, I'd be very surprised if it survived another winter after that picture was taken. So I'd take little inspiration from that picture.
So it was hung upside down, the plant has just made a u-shape and has turned itself around to have the leaves pointing up again which iwll have stressed the plant lots and slowed down growth while adjusting.

As to your plant, it looks great, hard to tell if its is two separate plants or if they are two fans from the same plant, if they are connected somewhere then chances are they are the same plant. In time either scenario will provide twice the flower spikes although I don't like having two plants get tangled together. Sometimes one plant can strangle out and compete against the other plant with one becoming stronger and the other weaker but for now I wouldn't touch them, it will take it some time to get used to your environment so plenty of time to observe how it is doing before you decide to seperate it if you ever wanted to. Even if it is one plant it can be divided but I wouldn never rush such a move, it causes a lot of stress. So only ever do it to an orchid that has been in your care for a year first if you can.
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You can grow almost all Vandas any way you wish, as long as you water accordingly. On a mount, you should water at least every other day (daily if the plant is placed full sun).

If you place it in a basket with some kind of mix, you can stretch the watering schedule a little. Here (New Jersey, USA), I use spaghnum in a basket, and water 2-3 times a week in summer, and 1-2 times a week in winter.
Thank you. Points taken.

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that second plant in bloom looks terrible.
I'm assuming that is not your picture?
You seek inspiration from that? I mean look at the stem, have you ever seen anything more black and brown?
It's as long as my arm! That is shocking. It might be one last ditch blooming attempt but I'd be embarrassed to show that plant in the condition it is in, blooming or not, I'd be very surprised if it survived another winter after that picture was taken. So I'd take little inspiration from that picture.
So it was hung upside down, the plant has just made a u-shape and has turned itself around to have the leaves pointing up again which iwll have stressed the plant lots and slowed down growth while adjusting.

As to your plant, it looks great, hard to tell if its is two separate plants or if they are two fans from the same plant, if they are connected somewhere then chances are they are the same plant. In time either scenario will provide twice the flower spikes although I don't like having two plants get tangled together. Sometimes one plant can strangle out and compete against the other plant with one becoming stronger and the other weaker but for now I wouldn't touch them, it will take it some time to get used to your environment so plenty of time to observe how it is doing before you decide to seperate it if you ever wanted to. Even if it is one plant it can be divided but I wouldn never rush such a move, it causes a lot of stress. So only ever do it to an orchid that has been in your care for a year first if you can.
Yes. The second picture is not mine. I actually not particular about hanging it upside-down. If I can say this plant has a front and back ( I think it has), my plant is mounted front side back. Actually the plant displays it's back but front side is more beautiful and should get some light. So I thought of tilting it some way so that the front side of the plant comes to display and to receive more light. So I think I can hand the mount flat instead of upside down

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