Sarcochilus (ceciliae) care
Login
User Name
Password   


Registration is FREE. Click to become a member of OrchidBoard community
(You're NOT logged in)

menu menu

Sponsor
Donate Now
and become
Forum Supporter.

Sarcochilus (ceciliae) care
Many perks!
<...more...>


Sponsor
 

Google


Fauna Top Sites
LOG IN/REGISTER TO CLOSE THIS ADVERTISEMENT
  #1  
Old 02-15-2021, 12:39 AM
neophyte's Avatar
neophyte neophyte is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Feb 2016
Zone: 9b
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 755
Sarcochilus (ceciliae) care
Default Sarcochilus (ceciliae) care

I was reading about the care this particular species requires. Most websites seem to recommend scoria/bark; would sphagnum work? I ask mainly because sphagnum has historically worked well for most of my plants, so I haven't ventured much into other media. Also, apparently the species prefers to have its roots sit on top of the medium? Is this a tricky species/are there easier members of its genus that I might start out with?

Last edited by neophyte; 02-15-2021 at 06:12 PM..
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes SouthPark liked this post
  #2  
Old 02-15-2021, 11:48 PM
3rdMaestro's Avatar
3rdMaestro 3rdMaestro is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Oct 2016
Zone: 7b
Location: Memphis, TN
Posts: 181
Sarcochilus (ceciliae) care
Default

Fred Clarke of Sunset Valley Orchids offers a variety of these for sale and has a good care sheet for them. A friend of mine grew them similar (but not exactly) to phals, and they bloomed well for her. Personally I don't see why moss shouldn't work, as long as you don't pack tightly in the pot. But Fred would be happy to help you grow these things and answer questions, give him a call!
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes neophyte liked this post
  #3  
Old 02-16-2021, 08:15 AM
Ray's Avatar
Ray Ray is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: May 2005
Member of:AOS
Location: Oak Island NC
Posts: 12,591
Sarcochilus (ceciliae) care Male
Default

As a general comment, “the plant” is not what determines what potting medium to use, and what works for one grower may not work for another.

You have to consider what the plant would see in nature, then consider the potting medium that works with the rest of your growing conditions and watering capabilities to deliver that.
__________________
Ray Barkalow, Orchid Iconoclast
Want Better Plants? READ THIS
firstrays.com

Free Shipping in the US! (see terms & conditions for details)
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes neophyte liked this post
  #4  
Old 02-16-2021, 02:59 PM
wisdomseeker's Avatar
wisdomseeker wisdomseeker is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Feb 2018
Member of:Past member AOS
Location: SE USA
Posts: 270
Sarcochilus (ceciliae) care Male
Default

Have only grown this one in a terrarium. Initially I was using a plastic net pot with sphagnum moss (not tightly packed, but not loose either). The plant seemed to be doing okay and had produced a few new leaves. Moss was kept damp, letting it dry before rewatering.

Further down the road ~ nothing seemed to be happening with this orchid, except for a couple of yellowing leafs that fell off. I pulled it out of the pot and took a look at the roots (the plant had a very robust root structure when first potted up in sphagnum). To my surprise there were only a few roots still attached. The ones that remained were healthy.

I re-potted (still using a plastic net pot, but used bark mixed with small pebbles as a medium). I had to water it more frequently than the sphagnum, but over the course of time, both the plant and root system greatly improved. Trial & error... had to figure out what would work best with the growing conditions/environment I was providing.
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes neophyte liked this post
  #5  
Old 02-16-2021, 08:09 PM
Roberta's Avatar
Roberta Roberta is offline
Super Moderator
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Zone: 10a
Location: Coastal southern California, USA
Posts: 6,729
Sarcochilus (ceciliae) care Female
Default

Sarco cecilae needs to be on the drier side. I got one from Santa Barbara Orchid Estate that was growing very happily in chunks of granite chips. It's more of a lithophyte than an epiphyte. Without any organic it was hard to keep it adequately watered... pebbles mixed with bark sounds like a good mix.
__________________
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" Carl Sagan

Roberta's Orchids (Visit my back yard)

What's blooming for Southern California Species hobbyists (New page for May 2021)
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes neophyte liked this post
  #6  
Old 02-16-2021, 11:05 PM
neophyte's Avatar
neophyte neophyte is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Feb 2016
Zone: 9b
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 755
Sarcochilus (ceciliae) care
Default

Thanks so much for the tips! I'll be trying a pebble or scoria mix then, probably with something else thrown in to retain a bit more moisture.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-17-2021, 01:13 AM
ArronOB ArronOB is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Central Coast, NSW
Posts: 361
Sarcochilus (ceciliae) care Male
Default

If you follow this link there are some photos of this orchid growing in the wild.

Sarcochilus ceciliae – TheRockLilyMan

The author goes further to point out that this is its normal situation of growth - on rock faces, but seldom bare rock, usually with quite deep leaf litter surrounding its roots. I think these are quite exposed rock faces, with scattered canopy cover. I think this is what you should be trying to duplicate, to the extent that you can in cultivation.
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes neophyte liked this post
  #8  
Old 02-18-2021, 02:16 PM
SouthPark's Avatar
SouthPark SouthPark is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Dec 2018
Member of:AOS
Location: Australia, North Queensland
Posts: 4,211
Default

I grow Sarco. ceciliae as well. Growing very successfully in big chunk scoria that I water each morning. Then the scoria surface is all dry by sun-down. This doesn't mean all the scoria is all dry though. The layers down toward the bottom of the pot can still be moist at night time.

My watering method I use is the same as for all my other orchids ------ most water applied to the outskirt regions of the pot. And then I also spray the full surface later a little bit with some water --- essentially to get the roots a bit wet.

The roots of the ceciliae generally grow really well like that --- and the roots can actually grow at a pretty good rate.

My growing conditions for my ceciliae is under a balcony --- and they get full morning sun - several hours of morning direct sunlight. My conditions are tropical here. Doing really well. They appear to be quite hardy orchids under these conditions here - which is the usual case for all orchids growing in conditions that supports them well.

I've also been growing 3 juvenile ceciliae in a humidity tub ----- in scoria too. Also doing well. So I think that they may be able to actually grow in sphagnum - as most orchids can. As long as their roots have adapted to it. Because - when I think about it ----- baby orchids are supported by agar etc in flasks. So should be able to handle sphagnum - when adapted that is.
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes neophyte liked this post
  #9  
Old 02-18-2021, 05:01 PM
SouthPark's Avatar
SouthPark SouthPark is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Dec 2018
Member of:AOS
Location: Australia, North Queensland
Posts: 4,211
Default

Also - interestingly - when I first started growing Sarcochilus --- I didn't know how Sarcochilus was supposed to be pronounced.

Eventually learned that the chilus portion is pronounced kigh-lus ...... as in kigh rhyming with high and thai (tie) etc. Not Sarco-kill-us.
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 2 Likes
Likes neophyte, DirtyCoconuts liked this post
  #10  
Old 02-19-2021, 07:07 AM
Fairorchids's Avatar
Fairorchids Fairorchids is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Aug 2013
Zone: 6a
Location: Maplewood, NJ
Posts: 2,302
Sarcochilus (ceciliae) care Male
Default

This was my first Sarc. I grew it successfully in a spagnum/bark mix (about 50/50) in small plastic pots for 6-7 years.

Then I attended a talk on Sarcs, by someone, who has grown Sarcs extremely well for 30+ years. He mentioned that ceciliae tends to suffer from SSDS (Sarc Sudden Death Syndrome) - in part because it hates getting repotted.

Within 30 days he was right.
__________________
Kim (Fair Orchids)

Founder of SPCOP (Society to Prevention of Cruelty to Orchid People), with the goal of barring the taxonomists from tinkering with established genera!

I am neither a 'lumper' nor a 'splitter', but I refuse to re-write millions of labels.
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes neophyte liked this post
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
care, media, species, sphagnum, top


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Dendrobium senile care questions Rico13 Dendrobium Alliance 2 12-14-2013 02:55 PM
Care Sheets - Genus, Species Specific and General Orchid Care Dorothy Beginner Discussion 3 12-06-2013 07:49 PM
Sarcochilus dilatatus in bloom OrchidLover1982 Vanda Alliance - others 11 12-06-2013 04:05 AM
Burr. Stefan Isler 'Lava Flow' care? OrchidTear Beginner Discussion 8 10-19-2013 05:19 AM
Does anyone know where I can find a Miltassia care sheet? junklecat Beginner Discussion 7 01-17-2009 03:21 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:43 PM.

© 2007 OrchidBoard.com
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.37 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2021 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2021 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Clubs vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.