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Old 07-14-2021, 02:17 AM
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Yug. You are probably right. But since the lineage of the plants I have is me to my friend (F) and she got them directly from abuela (A) I had direct access to the source of my cutting.

If abuela says it was this from this garden, “shrug” who am I to argue with Abuela???
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Old 07-14-2021, 10:48 AM
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Wise choice. Never argue with an abuela. About a year late to the start of this party, but definitely peaches and cream.
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Old 07-14-2021, 11:55 PM
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I've argued with 'highly-informed' orchid folk before - only from a very informed position, though - and have been proven to be correct on almost all occasions. I just use lots of tact, and it helps if you can use some of their own past writings / sayings to show that they may already support your position. The most recent was a former orchid club president - very knowlegable & generous - in his late 80's. This gentleman had been an AG science instructor in earlier years, and was very well informed on ag topics. He was telling me I didn't know what I was talking about when we were discussing types of papayas. I told him I had seen a few male ones, but they were rather rare, and that a few blocks from where I (and he) lived I had seen another one recently. He told me I didn't know what I was talking about, and he doubted I even knew what one looked like. He said it was probably something else that I had mistaken for a papaya. I told him where to look. About a week later he called me and said I was right; it was a male. If I wasn't sure, I'd not have said so. Just like with this vanda.

So, regarding the JVB issue, try to find any photo of a straight JVB that is not like what I described - lateral petals twisted back almost like a V. tricolor, and leaves spaced pretty far apart where they join the main stem. I'd love to see one that does not look like that, but it really isn't all that important since it couldn't be proven without a genetic test anyway, and most folks would think that is too much bother.

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Old 07-15-2021, 08:11 AM
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Hey DC, I think both names are fitting but it is always great when after wondering and wondering we finally think we found the right name.
I say think as it sounds like this one started to breed in the wild up to a radius of 4 miles and then a cutting was taken off one of the wild growing ones?
I was thinking the leaves are not 100% vanda but I just checked and the JVB was made using a Papilionanthe teres which would explain that lol

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Old 07-15-2021, 08:39 AM
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looks like a vanda JVB hybrid (Josephine von Brero) and is likely a quarter terete plant, I used to grow a few of those when in South Fla and they have great sunset tones color, can take full sun and heavy feeding, love the rainy days and bloom almost constantly. In a large clay pot with large chunks of either coal, tree fern, lava rock.
A great plant, thanks for posting.
BTW, these type of vandas can be seen in oriental tropical gardens in a group setting with many always in bloom.
So..... how you doin?

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