Sedeira (Phalaenopsis) japonica
Login
User Name
Password   


Registration is FREE. Click to become a member of OrchidBoard community
(You're NOT logged in)

menu menu

Sponsor
Donate Now
and become
Forum Supporter.

Sedeira (Phalaenopsis) japonica
Many perks!
<...more...>


Sponsor
 

Google


Fauna Top Sites
LOG IN/REGISTER TO CLOSE THIS ADVERTISEMENT
  #1  
Old 11-24-2018, 08:12 PM
MattWoelfsen MattWoelfsen is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Apr 2013
Zone: 5a
Member of:TROS, AOS, FSA
Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana
Posts: 2,727
Default Sedeira (Phalaenopsis) japonica

This is a fragrant species from Japan. I grow it like Neofinetia falcata.
Attached Thumbnails
Sedeira (Phalaenopsis) japonica-27123fbe-caaa-462a-b260-53509f32fe9d-jpg   Sedeira (Phalaenopsis) japonica-22d8124b-1412-43e3-8d45-f75f97f84b39-jpg   Sedeira (Phalaenopsis) japonica-05083a09-7bdb-47df-b0de-42b9ca2d6b04-jpg  
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 6 Likes
  #2  
Old 11-24-2018, 09:34 PM
Dollythehun Dollythehun is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Aug 2016
Zone: 6a
Location: Northern Indiana
Posts: 5,540
Sedeira (Phalaenopsis) japonica Female
Default

Since I don't grow neos, I have to ask you to flesh out the care for me. I was told to grow it like a phal. At what age did yours bloom?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-24-2018, 09:49 PM
MattWoelfsen MattWoelfsen is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Apr 2013
Zone: 5a
Member of:TROS, AOS, FSA
Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana
Posts: 2,727
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dollythehun View Post
Since I don't grow neos, I have to ask you to flesh out the care for me. I was told to grow it like a phal. At what age did yours bloom?
“Grow it like Neos”.

-This plant is in NZ Sphagnum Moss.
-It can take cool temperatures.
-In the Winter time, water early in the day and allow it to completely dry out—moss should be “crispy”.
-In the Summer time, keep it hydrated. It can tolerate heat but must be brought into cooler temperatures if the outside day time temperature stays over 90F for several days—it suffers from too much heat, whereas regular tropical Phalaenopsis will love the heat.
-like Neos, grow it in brighter light, closer to Vanda light.

I have had this plant for three years. It was in bud when I got it and it has bloomed every year. This is a small plant compared to regular Phalaenopsis.
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes Chemtiger liked this post
  #4  
Old 11-24-2018, 10:18 PM
Dollythehun Dollythehun is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Aug 2016
Zone: 6a
Location: Northern Indiana
Posts: 5,540
Sedeira (Phalaenopsis) japonica Female
Default

I was growing it in the greenhouse window with my phals. Mainly north light but brighter. I moved it to an East window and I grew a root. I'll move it again tomorrow.

Last edited by Dollythehun; 11-25-2018 at 07:14 AM..
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 2 Likes
Likes MattWoelfsen, Chemtiger liked this post
  #5  
Old 11-25-2018, 09:29 AM
SaraJean SaraJean is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jun 2015
Zone: 9b
Location: New Orleans
Age: 42
Posts: 1,078
Sedeira (Phalaenopsis) japonica Female
Default

Gorgeous plant!

Quote:
Originally Posted by MattWoelfsen View Post
-In the Summer time, keep it hydrated. It can tolerate heat but must be brought into cooler temperatures if the outside day time temperature stays over 90F for several days—it suffers from too much heat, whereas regular tropical Phalaenopsis will love the heat.
-like Neos, grow it in brighter light, closer to Vanda light.
Ah ha! That explains why mine is sort of limping along. It looks good but I might have gotten one new leaf out it this year. No blooms either. I had to sacrifice the light and grow it shadier when the temps started soaring in mid June through September. It stays over 90 for about 4 months.... I need to rethink this one. I may be gifting myself a little exoterra for Christmas to grow some of my minis. This might be happier with the summer temps in that set up but I would still wonder if it was getting enough light:/
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 2 Likes
Likes MattWoelfsen, Chemtiger liked this post
  #6  
Old 11-25-2018, 01:44 PM
camille1585's Avatar
camille1585 camille1585 is offline
Administrator
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: middle of the Netherlands
Posts: 13,683
Default

Gorgeous blooms, it looks like a happy plant. I have no luck with mine, but it's still early in the blooming season. I got it early last year, had no blooms, so this year it's been in very bright light. Fingers crossed for a spike....
__________________
Camille

Completely orchid obsessed and loving every minute of it....

My Orchid Photos
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes MattWoelfsen liked this post
  #7  
Old 11-25-2018, 02:56 PM
Roberta's Avatar
Roberta Roberta is offline
Super Moderator
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Zone: 10a
Location: Coastal southern California, USA
Posts: 12,803
Sedeira (Phalaenopsis) japonica Female
Default

Another consideration may be day-night temperature differential. Mine live outside, summer may get into the 90's F but evenings are cooler (even in the worst part of summer, low 70's F) I grow mine shady, mounted or basket with minimal media (like a Vanda), somewhat shady. They can tolerate winter temperatures to near freezing if it warms up somewhat by day (which it does where I live) but I'm sure that isn't necessary.
__________________
Orchids teach patience!

Roberta's Orchids (Visit my back yard)

See what orchid species are blooming in Southern California(New page for MARCH 2024)
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-17-2019, 09:14 PM
Chemtiger Chemtiger is offline
Member
 

Join Date: Jun 2018
Zone: 9b
Location: New Orleans, LA
Posts: 31
Sedeira (Phalaenopsis) japonica Female
Default Thank you!

Quote:
Originally Posted by SaraJean View Post
Gorgeous plant!


Ah ha! That explains why mine is sort of limping along. It looks good but I [It]might[/I] have gotten one new leaf out it this year. No blooms either. I had to sacrifice the light and grow it shadier when the temps started soaring in mid June through September. It stays over 90 for about 4 months.... I need to rethink this one. I may be gifting myself a little exoterra for Christmas to grow some of my minis. This might be happier with the summer temps in that set up but I would still wonder if it was getting enough light:/

I was wondering how this particular plant would work in the heat and light that lasts from mid-late May through early October, so I appreciate hearing how you’ve done with it. The light in my yard, even if I put it under a big banana tree, was strong enough to kill a Vanda, despite twice-daily soakings of the entire root system. I guess my dreams of putting my ‘chids outdoors isn’t realistic unless I have a greenhouse with lots of shade cloth!
__________________
What happens if you’re scared half to death twice?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-17-2019, 09:22 PM
Roberta's Avatar
Roberta Roberta is offline
Super Moderator
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Zone: 10a
Location: Coastal southern California, USA
Posts: 12,803
Sedeira (Phalaenopsis) japonica Female
Default

Don't necessarily need a greenhouse - I suspect cooling is more of a problem than keeping the plants warm in New Orleans. Shade cloth, on the other hand, is a very good investment. You can build a shade structure quite easily with conduit (see my website for photos)... I did all of mine by myself, and I'm a little old lady with only rudimentary skill with tools. I like Aluminet shade cloth - made out of aluminized Mylar. Along with cutting light (you probably want abut 70%, can double up if you need more i spots) it also reflects heat.
__________________
Orchids teach patience!

Roberta's Orchids (Visit my back yard)

See what orchid species are blooming in Southern California(New page for MARCH 2024)

Last edited by Roberta; 09-17-2019 at 09:32 PM..
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 2 Likes
Likes SaraJean, Chemtiger liked this post
  #10  
Old 09-17-2019, 10:29 PM
SaraJean SaraJean is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jun 2015
Zone: 9b
Location: New Orleans
Age: 42
Posts: 1,078
Sedeira (Phalaenopsis) japonica Female
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chemtiger View Post
I was wondering how this particular plant would work in the heat and light that lasts from mid-late May through early October, so I appreciate hearing how you’ve done with it. The light in my yard, even if I put it under a big banana tree, was strong enough to kill a Vanda, despite twice-daily soakings of the entire root system. I guess my dreams of putting my ‘chids outdoors isn’t realistic unless I have a greenhouse with lots of shade cloth!
So a little update on mine: not dead yet I didn’t get any leaf growth out of it after my one leaf that was growing last year finally matured in late winter. I think it’s finally blooming size now, at least. It did however put out a massive amount of roots, so hopefully it has settled in. I kept it outside all year with the exception of the days we had freeze warnings and throughout the summer, I just grew it a bit shadier. We’ll see if it blooms next year...

If you are lacking proper trees (I know a lot of people grow lots of their orchids under the live oaks, cypress, and crepe myrtles), you can always put up any sort of pergola. I rent a tiny little place with no trees, just a banana that I can not kill, so that is what I ended up doing (and Roberta’s shade house is fab!). I’ve never built anything before. I have a 50% shade cloth over top, higher light orchids up high and those shade the lower light ones below. Here are some pics from when I built it last year
New pergola/orchid house


Then I made a cover for it out of some greenhouse plastic with a zipper door, that went up in November-March and kept my less cold tolerant orchids in there. I used a small electric greenhouse heater, a fan to circulate air, and put some bins of water under the benches to hold some heat. Pics are at the bottom of the post. Or you could just move them inside for a few months if you have a good spot for them.
Come on Spring! (img heavy)

Last edited by SaraJean; 09-17-2019 at 11:11 PM..
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
falcata, grow, japan, neofinetia, species


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Phalaenopsis (syn. Sedirea) japonica isurus79 Species 10 05-04-2018 01:57 PM
Why you can not id a phal hybrid dennis Identification Forum 11 11-06-2015 12:00 PM
gift ideas JoshuaR Beginner Discussion 15 05-30-2013 03:13 PM
My small list of Phals Call_Me_Bob Species 10 09-20-2012 10:28 PM
Phalaenopsis Phylogeny philoserenus Hybrids 14 10-26-2009 09:20 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:29 AM.

© 2007 OrchidBoard.com
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.37 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Clubs vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.