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Old 06-03-2014, 06:01 AM
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This is the first time flowering for this plant. The flowers have been unusual as they are missing the lip.
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Old 06-03-2014, 09:27 AM
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I think it's peloric flower, interesting. I hope that next flowers will be ok

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Old 06-03-2014, 09:48 AM
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It's not peloric, just missing the lip. It's not unusual for a first time bloom to look a little strange.
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Old 06-03-2014, 09:52 AM
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It's not peloric, just missing the lip. It's not unusual for a first time bloom to look a little strange.
Thanks for the information, I quite like it without the lip
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Old 06-03-2014, 11:02 AM
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Alien and cool!
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Old 06-03-2014, 02:09 PM
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My mannii 'Black' did exactly the same thing this year. On a spike of 10 flowers the first 4 to open looked like this. On the second spike of 7 flowers the first 3 to open looked like this.

I wonder if UK temps influenced this this year. I had thought mine might have been due to my use of seaweed in the weeks the first buds were forming, but I don't really know what caused it. It just seems interesting that two of us in the UK have had the same thing this year though.

I wouldn't worry anyway. The later flowers on my spikes were all correctly formed. I think your plant will be fine in the future even if this spike does that.
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Old 06-03-2014, 03:09 PM
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It's not peloric, just missing the lip. It's not unusual for a first time bloom to look a little strange.
My mistake, I always thought that this is peloric flower.
For me peloric is when the flower is different than it should be. With double lips or without petals Any distortion of the inflorescence.

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Thanks for the information, I quite like it without the lip
This is the most important I'm glad that you like it
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Old 06-03-2014, 03:32 PM
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My mannii 'Black' did exactly the same thing this year. On a spike of 10 flowers the first 4 to open looked like this. On the second spike of 7 flowers the first 3 to open looked like this.

I wonder if UK temps influenced this this year. I had thought mine might have been due to my use of seaweed in the weeks the first buds were forming, but I don't really know what caused it. It just seems interesting that two of us in the UK have had the same thing this year though.

I wouldn't worry anyway. The later flowers on my spikes were all correctly formed. I think your plant will be fine in the future even if this spike does that.
I also use seaweed (Shropshire), so it may well be the cause.
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Old 06-03-2014, 04:18 PM
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Use less… once every 3 weeks at best

Pelorism is a change of system of symmetry. For orchids it means it's no more un bilateral symmetry and now in radial symmetry.

The malformed flower (now it's an interesting one is still in bilateral symmetry.

[edit: my interval for seaweed use was unclear…]

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Old 06-03-2014, 07:25 PM
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Interesting!
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