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The Mutant 04-25-2022 03:38 PM

Phal. Jennifer Palermo or Phal. Germaine Vincent
 
I'm making a list of which Phals to order when it's time and I'm considering to order a few novelty Phals. This mostly because I didn't have a lot of them when I had my collection before and since I'm not going for any species this time around, I need something to take the place of the millions of Phal. equestris I used to have. :biggrin:

The issue is that I used to have a Phal. Jennifer Palermo and I wasn't too fond of the color of the flower. This is how it looked (first and only flowering):

https://i.imgur.com/ooEt6HV.jpg

I really like the color on the flower opening, but not on the one that's fully open.

I'm planning to order from Schwerter here in the EU and they have both these crosses available and with the same parents, but one is a Germaine Vincent and the other is Jennifer Palermo. I LOVE the color on the tetraspis/speciosa since it's a lovely red (at least on the image on the site), but don't care that much about the violacea.

My question is; does it matter which Phal is the seed parent and which is the pollen ditto? Can this affect the color in any way or will it be a tossup any which way?

I want a more reddish color rather than the cerise one.

EDIT: I forgot, they also have another Jennifer Palermo, but with a different tetraspis/speciosa parent. Instead of red it's white with a few red stripes. Would the pattern on the tetraspis/speciosa affect the color of the offspring in any significant way, or is it impossible to say?

So far, none of the offspring has flowered so they don't have any pictures to show. That's why I'm asking.

Ray 04-25-2022 05:26 PM

Yes, some traits (size and color, for example) are passed on through mitochondrial (mom) DNA.

estación seca 04-25-2022 11:05 PM

You never know what you will get from a seedling until it flowers. If you want a particular color you need to buy a mericlone or a stem propagation of a specific plant you've seen whose color you like.

The Mutant 04-26-2022 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray (Post 984876)
Yes, some traits (size and color, for example) are passed on through mitochondrial (mom) DNA.

Thanks for your answer. I'll buy the Jennifer Palermo and hope for the red to be a bit more dominant compared to what I had before. I'm also tempted to order the other one only to see what the offspring will look like.

Quote:

Originally Posted by estación seca (Post 984895)
You never know what you will get from a seedling until it flowers. If you want a particular color you need to buy a mericlone or a stem propagation of a specific plant you've seen whose color you like.

I'll take a chance and go with the JP and hope I get lucky. If nothing else, I can probably sell it if it turns out like my previous one.

Oh, they have mericlones that are gorgeous but they're sooo expensive. :shock:


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