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Casa Silas 02-06-2008 01:49 PM

Brassavola Nodosa
 
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This is my first orchid here in Nicaragua. It's bloomed only a few weeks after purchase. I've hung it in the centre of a Ficus tree to protect it from the full sun here. I'm not sure whether this would have been a one spaces orchid or a cloud forest shaded orchid. I believe it is an Brassavola Nodosa based on what I've seen in Patrick Werners' book An Introduction To Nicaraguan Orchids. I'd like to propagate this but, I'm sure that information is elsewhere on this forum.

Ross 02-06-2008 02:06 PM

Looks like B. nodosa, or one of it's hybrids, to me. They like pretty strong light.

Casa Silas 02-06-2008 02:08 PM

Thanks Ross, I'll move it to a brighter location. What about watering - mositure?

Ross 02-06-2008 02:41 PM

They like to be watered or soaked, but like to dry out between waterings. I am sure your natural humidity will be fine. Be sure to fertilize during the growing periods. Be sure to avoid full sun during mid day in your climate. I would say early morning sun and late afternoon sun but sort-of shady mid day would be best.

Casa Silas 02-06-2008 03:07 PM

Re fertilizer
 
This orchid was bought growing in burlap attached to a rotted piece of 2 x 2. I'm guessing a water soluble fertilizer, but of what constituent?

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Originally Posted by Ross (Post 79653)
They like to be watered or soaked, but like to dry out between waterings. I am sure your natural humidity will be fine. Be sure to fertilize during the growing periods. Be sure to avoid full sun during mid day in your climate. I would say early morning sun and late afternoon sun but sort-of shady mid day would be best.


Ross 02-06-2008 03:18 PM

Check this web site Fertilizer PPM Calculator Scroll way down near the bottom and plug in the percent nitrogen for the fertilizer you are planning to use (you have purchased some fertilizer, right?) You want 125ppm (just type in 125) as a target for every time fertilizing (what I mean is, every time you water, dunk, your plant in solution, you will be fertilizing + watering). So 125 goes in the right-hand box. The left-hand box should contain the Nitrogen percent from the label of your fertilizer so 20-20-20 would be .62 milliliters fertilizer per liter of water. Does this help?

maitaman 02-06-2008 03:50 PM

I'm just south in Panama' and find nodosas all along the Caribbean coast. They seem to like fair shade to fairly strong sunlight and are salt tolerant, some growing where salt spray often reaches them. They grow well on cork or hardwood that allows regular watering but dry out between. Not picky about fertilizer. Do well with none here.

Casa Silas 02-06-2008 04:15 PM

That page will be a terrific bookmark. Thanks

Ross 02-06-2008 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by maitaman (Post 79675)
I'm just south in Panama' and find nodosas all along the Caribbean coast. They seem to like fair shade to fairly strong sunlight and are salt tolerant, some growing where salt spray often reaches them. They grow well on cork or hardwood that allows regular watering but dry out between. Not picky about fertilizer. Do well with none here.

Good point! Who fertilizes these guys in nature? :hmm I don't think the salt does them any good, just that they tolerate it. I suspect the sea breezes at night and fog wash the salt away. I wouldn't add salt to the diet, but we are in agreement about drying and the light? :biggrin:

Casa Silas 02-06-2008 04:18 PM

I'll play it by ear then. Thanks for the information. I bought it from a small grower in Catarina, about 300m above sea level I think. He had it in a garden in full sun. I'll watch and see. I was pleased it bloomed so quick (2 weeks after purchase) Oh, when the bloom dies does it atrophy or should I clip it off. Is there seed potential if it were to become pollinated?

Ross 02-06-2008 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Casa Silas (Post 79689)
I'll play it by ear then. Thanks for the information. I bought it from a small grower in Catarina, about 300m above sea level I think. He had it in a garden in full sun. I'll watch and see. I was pleased it bloomed so quick (2 weeks after purchase) Oh, when the bloom dies does it atrophy or should I clip it off. Is there seed potential if it were to become pollinated?

Seed will be determined by pollinators. If it's outside, there's a good chance. As for atrophy, it will just shrivel and fall off. If it's been pollinated that may occur quickly and leave a nice fat seed area behind. It'll be obvious.

kavanaru 02-06-2008 04:24 PM

Hi Ross, I can confirm from my own experience with this species in venezuela, that they do not seem to be very sensible to salt... I have seen them growing on the coast on mangroves and on rocks on the direct sun and being regularly watered by the caribbean waves... I can put my hand on fire for a single plant (several years old!) growing on a mangrove next to the house of a friend of mine, which even had salt cristal on its leaves and was producing abundant flowers every year!
I will contact my friend, as he possibly can have pictures of this plant, and if so, I will post them here...

For me this species loves so much sun, that I am not sure if I would be able to provide it right conditions growing in-house in Europe... Some day I will loose my fear and give it a try ;)

Ross 02-06-2008 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kavanaru (Post 79692)
For me this species loves so much sun, that I am not sure if I would be able to provide it right conditions growing in-house in Europe... Some day I will loose my fear and give it a try ;)

Ramon, I find the same thing. I have several seedlings and a couple blooming size. I really can't provide enough light (30,000 to 40,000 lux) to bloom them properly, but I keep hoping. But I do grow them well (lots of new healthy growth). This summer they go outside into full sun! :biggrin:

maitaman 02-07-2008 03:07 PM

I didn't mean to sound like you should add salt, but they are very tolerant of a large range of conditions. Cstm. virdiflavum and some Galeandras, enc. and epis grow as close (plus nemedias - which are all over the place here.)

Royal 02-07-2008 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Casa Silas (Post 79689)
I'll play it by ear then. Thanks for the information. I bought it from a small grower in Catarina, about 300m above sea level I think. He had it in a garden in full sun. I'll watch and see. I was pleased it bloomed so quick (2 weeks after purchase) Oh, when the bloom dies does it atrophy or should I clip it off. Is there seed potential if it were to become pollinated?

I've got a B. nodosa hybrid in bloom right now with a few seed pods developing. I've got it inside right now, so I've had to pollinate it myself. Leave the flowers on. Once pollinated, they will kind of pucker up and the the ovary will begin to swell. The flower will not usually drop.

On the other hand, if they go unpollinated, the whole thing will dry up and drop off. Just pick them up and toss them. I'll try to take some photos tonight showing both maturing capsules and unpollinated flowers.

Peace, - J

Royal 02-08-2008 04:21 PM

Check my gallery for the pics. Wait, I'll try the linked thumbnail image thing...
http://www.orchidboard.com/community...m/100_1486.JPG
http://www.orchidboard.com/community...m/100_1490.JPG

Casa Silas 02-08-2008 05:12 PM

just wondering . . .
 
Hi there, what am I looking at in that second photo, a seed pod or a new orchid forming?


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Originally Posted by RoyalOrchids (Post 80196)
Check my gallery for the pics. Wait, I'll try the linked thumbnail image thing...
http://www.orchidboard.com/community...m/100_1486.JPG
http://www.orchidboard.com/community...m/100_1490.JPG


Royal 02-08-2008 05:20 PM

It's a seed pod. It was the the little stem part of the flower that attaches to the spike. Really it's a swollen ovary or a fruit.

Casa Silas 02-08-2008 05:29 PM

Do you have to start the seeds in some sort of gel or petri dish?

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Originally Posted by RoyalOrchids (Post 80206)
It's a seed pod. It was the the little stem part of the flower that attaches to the spike. Really it's a swollen ovary or a fruit.


Royal 02-08-2008 05:31 PM

Yes. It will be my first try.

Casa Silas 02-08-2008 11:27 PM

what type of medium?
 
what type of medium? I wish you great success. I'd like to do the same.

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Originally Posted by RoyalOrchids (Post 80209)
Yes. It will be my first try.


Royal 02-11-2008 09:40 AM

I'm starting with a standard "germination media". I think it's called P669. I'll be doing some side by side experiments with different media, but the standard is what I will expect the best results from.

Check out Phytotech's website or the 'technical data' section of the Orchid Seedbank Project website.


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