Sudden brown/yellow
Login
User Name
Password   


Registration is FREE. Click to become a member of OrchidBoard community
(You're NOT logged in)

menu menu

Sponsor
Donate Now
and become
Forum Supporter.

Sudden brown/yellow
Many perks!
<...more...>


Sponsor
 

Google


Fauna Top Sites
Register Sudden brown/yellow Members Sudden brown/yellow Sudden brown/yellow Today's PostsSudden brown/yellow Sudden brown/yellow Sudden brown/yellow
LOG IN/REGISTER TO CLOSE THIS ADVERTISEMENT
Go Back   Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web ! > >
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-29-2021, 05:30 AM
The Mad Hatter The Mad Hatter is offline
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 4
Sudden brown/yellow
Default Sudden brown/yellow

Would appreciate any advice on what might be happening with this cymbidium and how to best manage it. Thanks!

Recently moved the plant outside into a mini greenhouse in late autumn/early winter, noticed leaves yellowing a week later.
Attached Thumbnails
Sudden brown/yellow-190993657_497804914972476_1755200721950470069_n-jpg   Sudden brown/yellow-186556724_1929689827184977_5081646257760666667_n-jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-29-2021, 06:53 AM
Dollythehun Dollythehun is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Aug 2016
Zone: 6a
Location: Northern Indiana
Posts: 5,540
Sudden brown/yellow Female
Default

Sunburn. They needed to be acclimatized gradually.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-29-2021, 12:29 PM
estación seca's Avatar
estación seca estación seca is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jun 2015
Zone: 9b
Location: Phoenix AZ - Lower Sonoran Desert
Posts: 17,981
Sudden brown/yellow Male
Default

How cold are your winters? Which Cymbidium is it? The large hybrids are fine (perhaps better) outside in winter unless you have substantial frosts.
__________________
May the bridges I've burned light my way.

Weather forecast for my neighborhood
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-29-2021, 08:38 PM
The Mad Hatter The Mad Hatter is offline
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 4
Sudden brown/yellow
Default

Thanks for the replies! I have moved them into a more sheltered position and hopefully not too much damage has been done...

Our winters are mild. So far we have not approached freezing temperatures, however I would expect frosts in a month or two.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-29-2021, 08:50 PM
estación seca's Avatar
estación seca estación seca is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jun 2015
Zone: 9b
Location: Phoenix AZ - Lower Sonoran Desert
Posts: 17,981
Sudden brown/yellow Male
Default

If you're willing to move it a bit, they flower better with naturally cooling fall/winter temperatures. Only bring it in when it will be at or below freezing, otherwise keep it outside in bright light.
__________________
May the bridges I've burned light my way.

Weather forecast for my neighborhood
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-29-2021, 09:09 PM
The Mad Hatter The Mad Hatter is offline
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 4
Sudden brown/yellow
Default

Bit of a rookie question: how long would you expect them to take to develop flower spikes when kept in cool temperatures and adequate sunlight?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-29-2021, 09:22 PM
estación seca's Avatar
estación seca estación seca is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jun 2015
Zone: 9b
Location: Phoenix AZ - Lower Sonoran Desert
Posts: 17,981
Sudden brown/yellow Male
Default

Flower spikes generally emerge in winter to early spring. Some say cool fall nights are critical for flowering the following spring. Others say cool winters are critical, and buds to flower 12-15 months hence form in new growths before they're visible.
__________________
May the bridges I've burned light my way.

Weather forecast for my neighborhood
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-29-2021, 10:20 PM
Roberta's Avatar
Roberta Roberta is online now
Super Moderator
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Zone: 10a
Location: Coastal southern California, USA
Posts: 13,004
Sudden brown/yellow Female
Default

It does look like it got toasted... Any chance that's a Cym. canaliculatum? (Leaves have that look, hard and "V" shaped cross section) If so, it not only doesn't need cold, it doesn't even particularly want it. I move mine to the greenhouse during the winter, and greatly reduce water. And it wants more filtered light than the standard Cyms too. So what works for standard Cymbidiums needs to be modified for some of the warmer-growing Australian species.
__________________
Orchids teach patience!

Roberta's Orchids (Visit my back yard)

See what orchid species are blooming in Southern California(New page for MAY 2024)

Last edited by Roberta; 05-29-2021 at 10:29 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-30-2021, 12:31 AM
The Mad Hatter The Mad Hatter is offline
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 4
Sudden brown/yellow
Default

Now that you mention it, I think it is a Cym. canaliculatum! Thanks for the ID. I've unfortunately never had it flower despite growing it for years. Is the reduced winter watering required for flowering or would it still likely be incorrect lighting?

I moved it from inside of a large open window to the outside of the same window - in hindsight not the best idea. Goes to show how much glass filters the light I guess...

---------- Post added at 02:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:28 PM ----------

I never really appreciated it was any different to a standard Cymbidium. So it will be handy to know I have to treat it a little bit differently moving forward. Thanks!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-30-2021, 01:10 AM
Roberta's Avatar
Roberta Roberta is online now
Super Moderator
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Zone: 10a
Location: Coastal southern California, USA
Posts: 13,004
Sudden brown/yellow Female
Default

I don't know if it's the reduced watering that triggers flowering. But in nature, there is much less rain in winter - the "V" shaped leaves capture dew, and "channel" it to the roots. Hence the species name.

I do cut the amount of water in the winter. The greenhouse helps there too, I hang this plant at the end of the GH where I also have the Catasetinae. (I do give the Cym some water, maybe once a week or so) In late winter the spikes form, and then I start watering more regularly. But the key difference from all the rest of my Cyms is temperature - Cym. canaliculatum does not do well if it gets cold. I have found it to be much more sensitive than the other hard-leaved tropical Cyms like aloifolium, finlaysonianum, etc., which do stay out through the winter like all of the "normal" Cyms.
__________________
Orchids teach patience!

Roberta's Orchids (Visit my back yard)

See what orchid species are blooming in Southern California(New page for MAY 2024)

Last edited by Roberta; 05-30-2021 at 01:17 AM..
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
greenhouse, mini, moved, plant, recently


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Sudden Wilting, Dehydration & Black Spots Dendrobium dianecty Pests & Diseases 3 06-28-2020 12:55 PM
Phal with sudden wrinkled leaves and shriveled roots praguequest Beginner Discussion 9 04-19-2020 05:55 PM
Sudden change in two orchids, is it sunburn? AEKass Beginner Discussion 12 11-13-2017 06:38 PM
Very sudden wilting of flowers on a Phal Bobits Beginner Discussion 10 12-12-2014 09:44 AM
Oncidium Brown/yellow roots Hultaren Pests & Diseases 7 09-28-2012 10:38 AM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:48 PM.

© 2007 OrchidBoard.com
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.37 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Clubs vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.