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Old 02-09-2022, 09:36 PM
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Part of the "when" answer lies in the parentage... some of these look to me like they might very well be ready to bloom in the next year or so. If the parents are relatively small, they can bloom (and be mature) on fairly small plants. One where I can clearly read the label, the Maclellanara (which isn't showing pseudobulbs yet) has a ways to go... those tend to get quite big - and need to do that before reaching blooming size. On the other hand, will be well worth the wait (capable of spikes 3 feet (1 m) or more) So the answer is, "It depends..." The ones with fully formed mature-looking pseudobulbs, likely can bloom on the next new growth.
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I think Shadeflower has a valid point because I have noticed on several occasions that disagreement or profering alternative advice to so called "senior Members' or "Super Moderators" is not welcomed. Surely the whole idea of a forum is sharing of opinions and ideas. Indeed, I have been banned from this forum on a previous occasion under a different ID for disagreeing strongly with a thread.
We all need to realise that there is no right way to grow orchids - it all depends on growing techniques etc.
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Personal attacks on other board members are never OK.If the support for one's opinion is to put down someone else and deny their experience, then that is no support at all. To presume to know another person's growing conditions and experience better than that person indicates profound ignorance -one certainly does not enhance one's credibility by pretending to "know" that somebody else does not know their own experience to attack the other person's credibility.
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Here is my flowering Oncidium Sharry Baby, a first flowering for this mericlone. I mentioned it above in this thread. It is in a 1 quart/liter deli container with LECA, and has side holes for S/H growing.

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It came from Olympic Orchids in October 2020 in a tiny 2"/5cm pot with sphagnum moss. Those of you who have ordered from Olympic know Ellen sends small but very healthy plants. It was smaller than the plants sewagner86 showed at the top of this thread.

It grew through winter 2020/21 in that small pot in my sunroom. In spring 2021 I moved it to this 1 quart/liter deli container with holes drilled for S/H. I did not even remove the medium; I put the whole sphagnum wad into this container. You can still see some of the original sphagnum in this photo, showing the roots.

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I took poor care of this plant during the remainder of 2021 due to other issues in my life. It got watered sporadically, less than I should have. I lost some of its companion Oncidiums and some Phals when my growing area got too hot and humid for too long late last summer. Nevertheless many of my Oncidiums grew rapidly, even with erratic watering and almost no fertilizing.

I wrote previously it began flowering in December. It could have been January. I'm not really sure, because it was on a bottom shelf, and I haven't even looked at it since last fall. I just water everything with a hose. Nevertheless, there is a well-advanced new growth that will be flowering soon:

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Yes, Sharry Baby is a very vigorous hybrid. But other Onc. hybrids are equally vigorous. People who grow in homes don't realize how well orchids can grow with proper conditions. Many hybrid Oncidiums, and almost all Phalaenopsis, do grow very much faster at higher temperatures than most people keep their homes. Some Onc. hybrids, and Miltoniopsis, are not in this group. But you can find out by reading a little.

As many members here write, the most important things to pay attention to when growing orchids are proper conditions - temperature, humidity, light.

Here at 33 degrees North, I have much more light in winter than many people living in the northern US, Canada and Europe have in summer. My growing room has warmer conditions year round than almost anybody growing in a home. So it is not surprising plants that like warmth can grow faster. I recall some time ago an OB members commented Phals grow 1-2 leaves a year. Perhaps in a house; in warm and humid conditions they can grow a dozen or more.

I have seen quite a few OB members who grow in their homes report much better growth and flowering once they put their Phals onto heat mats for the winter.

The lesson here is not to give up and resign oneself to growing orchids slowly. The lesson is to figure out how to give them what they want, or how to pick ones that flourish in the growing conditions we have.
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As ever, Roberta has completely misunderstood my remarks, and message understood - comments from non"senior" members are not welcomed and should not be trusted. OK, this forum advertises itself as the most complete orchid forum, although it is very, very, USA based. Maybe those in charge need to realise and respect there is a valuable resource outside of the USA who might offer alternative views and shudder to think of it - come up with a different appropriate helpful comment which the originator can choose whether (or not) to follow.
Just finally, with almost 40 years growing experience, a fully accredited judge, service on several local, national and international orchid organisation boards I rather object to being classed as ignorant. Whether or not an apology appears, I shall continue to offer ideas from my experience from outside the USA.
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1) Varying opinions have been proffered for consideration by OP
2) Post count and mod status are irrelevant. I don’t believe I’ve ever seen anyone here state that their opinion should be considered more relevant or informed than others based on their forum status. Enough can’t be said for personal agency and critical thinking. If you don’t think people are listening to you due to your status as a member, post 6 more times and you’ll be a senior member, then folks will take note when you post an opinion! /s
3) What the hell does a user’s country have to do with ANYTHING?!?
4) Nobody called you ignorant. WTF?

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I'm almost certain Roberta's remark was directed at another member, and not at you. I've seen no personal attacks by you here at all.

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I'm almost certain Roberta's remark was directed at another member, and not at you. I've seen no personal attacks by you here at all.
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Just for the record, there is no trace of any of your 3 accounts that I can find being banned. 2 are active accounts, and the last one was automatically disactivated after a prolonged period of inactivity (which I think is in the 6-12 months range). Perhaps that is the account you are thinking of. If you want it to be reactivated, send me a PM. If you would like for all your accounts to be merged into a single account, also let me know in the PM.
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Hello AaronOB! I like your post about the oncidiums. Mainly because I recently bought an Aliceara(beallara). It came in a 4" pot, looked like medium bark mixture. It came from Hawaii and looked pretty dry and some of the medium had white on them leading me to believe it was old medium or had chemicals dried on it. It has not looked happy and the plant's pseudobulbs seem a little loose and seem to slowly be leaning over. I hope that these issues are just change of scenery thing. I repotted it in a fine bark mixture meant for oncidiums, and I have read the Aliceara are slow growers. I water it twice a week. Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you!
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