they all look the same

[kvet]

Hi!

I hadn't planned on doing this, but curiosity got the better of me. I tried identifying these myself based on common orchid types, and got confused because sometimes the flowers match up, but the plant part does not ???

All three are in the same large, deep pot full or coarse orchid bark. Mom gifted them to me 2.5 years ago, we cut the bottom of the pot off and placed them into the larger pot. They are located at an east facing window, where many times I forget to open the curtains. I am coastal, house temps average 67-74F, and my humidity remains upper 60s. I keep the window open almost 24/7. They seem to be doing well. Then they began sprouting their roots all over last month, which made me begin research.

Orchid 01: Dendro or Phal? Looks like "typical" grocery store orchid. Has a slight floral scent, and bloom lasts 6-9 months. The plant picture looks brownish, it is a nice bright green, sorry, it was early morning when I took the photo.

Orchid 02: Zygo? Appears to be a pseudobulb? Bloom lasted about 3 months, has a honey aroma

Orchid 03: Dendro or Cattleya? This one has bloomed multiple times this year, they last about a month, and has sticky dew drops all over. The aroma is quite strong, floral and fruity.

Thank you for reviewing!

[fishmom]

The first plant is definitely a phal, very pretty. The second looks like a zygo to me, and your leaves are in good shape, not all full of spots like zygos so often are. The third looks like a Den. nobile type, maybe a warmth-tolerant one if it is blooming multiple times a year. Nice collection.

[Ray]

First two - phalaenopsis.
Next two - zygo hybrid
Last 3 nobile-type dendrobium

[kvet]

Right on, thank you both!

[Ray]

With time, study, and exposure to more and more plants, you'll get a good "feel" for identification.

[Swimmingorchids]

first one resembles Phalaenopsis "Brother Sarah Gold"

Second one looks like Zygopetalum "Rhein Clown"

Third one is a dendrobium Nobile - could be a "memory love Fizz" variant

[Ray]

Originally Posted by Swimmingorchids

first one resembles Phalaenopsis "Brother Sarah Gold"

Second one looks like Zygopetalum "Rhein Clown"

Third one is a dendrobium Nobile - could be a "memory love Fizz" variant

SO - I am posting this for the benefit of everyone, so PLEASE don't take offense.

Swimmingorchids was wise to use qualifiers like "looks like" and "resembles", as it is VERY difficult to ID plants from their flowers, even with species, and definitely with hybrids, because complex hybrids of differing parentage can look quite similar, individual cultivars of the same plant can look entirely different from others, and culture can play a role too, to the point that two plants of the same clone can look different.

For example, here is a screen capture of the cultivars of Phalaenopsis Brother Sara Gold from OrchidWiz:



Good the original image be of another cultivar? Possibly, but we'll never know for sure.

Another example, this time and entirely different hybrid that looks similar to the zygo image, but in this case, are cultivars of Galeopetalum Giant:



Using the galeopetalum as an example for nomenclature - the species or hybrid (grex) name is never put in quotes; that is reserved for the cultivar name, and that is single quotes only. The one in the bottom center, for example, is Gptm. Giant 'Rhein Moonlight'.

[katrina]

Originally Posted by Swimmingorchids

***Quote removed by Admin due to foul language***

Seriously?! Enough w/the hissy fits over anything and everything Ray does. You really need to get over yourself!

From what I can read...Ray wasn't saying anything negative about you or your comment. If anything...he was trying to pay you a bit of a compliment...which is likely more than I would've done given the fact that you actually suggested someone might be able to ID an orchid via pic on the web. Any IDs based on pics from anywhere can and will most likely be wrong. There are some species that are so distinct that it's easy to ID them from pics but most any hybrid...the best you might be able to do is guess at some of the parentage. Maybe. And that is a BIG maybe.

No matter...we do have a Mod and when she gets back from vaca...she will see your post. I am not offended by crass language...I have a bit of a potty mouth myself... but I respect others and therefore I would not use that language on here as it is offensive to some members.

When you're playing in someone else's sandbox...you play by their rules. Perhaps you would be wise to remember this. Just saying...

[Ray]

Originally Posted by katrina

Seriously?! Enough w/the hissy fits over anything and everything Ray does. You really need to get over yourself!

From what I can read...Ray wasn't saying anything negative about you or your comment. If anything...he was trying to pay you a bit of a compliment...which is likely more than I would've done given the fact that you actually suggested someone might be able to ID an orchid via pic on the web. Any IDs based on pics from anywhere can and will most likely be wrong. There are some species that are so distinct that it's easy to ID them from pics but most any hybrid...the best you might be able to do is guess at some of the parentage. Maybe. And that is a BIG maybe.

No matter...we do have a Mod and when she gets back from vaca...she will see your post. I am not offended by crass language...I have a bit of a potty mouth myself... but I respect others and therefore I would not use that language on here as it is offensive to some members.

When you're playing in someone else's sandbox...you play by their rules. Perhaps you would be wise to remember this. Just saying...

We may not have to worry about such infantile tantrums any longer. Marty gave him a 99-point infraction for profanity with the note "one more time and you're banned for good". I think this may do it.

[Paul]

I concur with the others' tentative IDs as well as the caution voiced by Ray and Katrina. Your plants will forever be NoIDs (no ID plants). There are simply too many lookalike hybrids out there and hybrids in which there can be a surprising amount of diversity in color and form. Doesn't mean you can't enjoy them for what they are ... very pretty flowers.

Originally Posted by kvet

Well, I have enough information now, sorry to have created the ruckus

Pish-posh, Kvet, you by no means created a ruckus. That distinction goes to SwimmingOrchids who, as you can see, is a complete git.

Originally Posted by Roberta

Galeopetalum is an intergeneric hybrid (human-made) in the Zygopetalum group. It is Zygopetalum x Galeottia in varying combinations - usually mostly Zygopetalum. Other genera that are closely related breed with Zygopetalum, letting the the hybridizer expand the color palette of the Zygos and also breed for other characteristics.

To piggy back onto Roberta's comment and further address your own regarding "them all looking the same"... With crosses of closely related plants, there can often be less visible differences in the offspring -- especially if certain traits turn out to be strongly dominant.

Originally Posted by katrina

Seriously?! Enough w/the hissy fits over anything and everything Ray does. You really need to get over yourself!
.

Not much chance of that it would appear.

Originally Posted by katrina

From what I can read...Ray wasn't saying anything negative about you or your comment. If anything...he was trying to pay you a bit of a compliment...

Which would have been abundantly clear to most people.

Originally Posted by katrina

...which is likely more than I would've done given the fact that you actually suggested someone might be able to ID an orchid via pic on the web. Any IDs based on pics from anywhere can and will most likely be wrong. There are some species that are so distinct that it's easy to ID them from pics but most any hybrid...the best you might be able to do is guess at some of the parentage. Maybe. And that is a BIG maybe.

And should you be unaware of that simple reality, you really should consider doing some research,

Originally Posted by katrina

When you're playing in someone else's sandbox...you play by their rules. Perhaps you would be wise to remember this. Just saying...

For that matter, if your grasp of the English language is that weak, your ego that big, and/or your skin that thin then perhaps forums are not the best place for you to frequent.