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Old 01-14-2022, 08:16 PM
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I never would have learned to cook if I had relied on TV (now YouTube) chefs. They seem to make everything overly complicated.

Here is easy yogurt

--Milk heated to 180-200F then insulated for 30-40 minutes in a 'cold' oven. This step promotes thickening, sterilization is irrelevant.
--Cool the pot to 100-110F (I use the kitchen sink filled with cold tap water) and inoculate with active yogurt, 1-cup (no more) per gallon.
--Pour through a wire strainer into containers (scorched milk leaves floaters).
--Incubate in oven for 5-12 hours. The oven (insulated box) was pre-warmed by the pot of hot milk.

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If you use 1 to 1.5 gallons of milk and put it into 24-32 oz plastic containers saved from cottage cheese or yogurt they will fill or nearly fill an oven rack and maintain incubation temperature (place the rack high in the oven). The oven light is not needed for heat. Do not use new Tupperware-type plastic food containers or a strong plastic smell can leach into the product and ruin it. If you make a smaller batch you can put a large container/s of hot tap on the rack with them to help keep the temperature up on a cold day.

In my experience, high quality active Greek yogurt such as Oikos or Chibani sets up/gels thicker than cheaper brands (the two make slightly different results due to Chibani's extra bugs in the mix). All you need is the cup-ish size container that is common in stores to add to a gallon of milk (plain is preferred but flavored yogurt works too). After one batch you can just use yogurt from your last container for the next batch. I also make an inoculant container and freeze it after incubation. After several cycles of incubating with yogurt from the previous batch the product may get too tart, that is when I go to the freezer for the bit I saved from the first batch.

Trouble shooting:
Lower temperature incubation (95-100F) needs longer incubation time to set up.
Longer incubation time at middle-high temperatures can make the flavor more tart (but generally doesn't with new cultures).
Curdy/grainy yogurt on the bottom may result from higher temperature incubation (110-115F).

Tip: Stand there and constantly stir along the bottom with a pancaked turner after the milk gets warm-hot. Milk scorched on the bottom of a pot is not fun to remove. Heating to 180F takes about 15 minutes on high heat. It's not like the ladies on YouTube who stir occasionally while bringing their milk to a boil. Maybe their brand new stove tops and pots, and "only of the highest quality" organic Kobe milk have something to do with it.

I use common jug 2% or whole milk. Supposedly, adding powdered milk (more proteins to gel) will make it thicker, but I want cheap and easy.
I get some variability in thickness among batches, which may be due to the culture age, the amount of culture I use and/or the incubation temperature, but since I mix in flavorings before eating that doesn't matter much to me.

My only failure was due to inoculating the milk when it was too hot (at or above 120F). The resulting product was runny and smelled like grassy manure.
If your yogurt is runny from not reaching/maintaining 170-180F you just have ungelled yogurt. Setting up/gelling is dependent on the milk proteins being denatured, which starts happening at 170F. 180F held for 30 minutes supposedly results in nearly complete denaturation. So does five minutes at 200F but I have found that raising from 180F to 200F results in a lot of scorching even with constant stirring, so it is not worth doing for me. Plus I get a warm box from letting the 180F milk sit on the oven and have time to get out all the other stuff I need.

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Old 01-15-2022, 07:07 AM
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Yes, home made yogurt is very easy. I don't precook the milk nor use the oven. A simple bain marie makes the needed tº and I get the yogurt over night with the rest if the warmth. On cold days it may take longer.

The advantage if a great batch of yogurt, you can make hung curd! The whey is for bread or for the orchids ...
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Old 01-15-2022, 02:29 PM
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Grautier, are you just leaving it in the pot to set up? Are you cutting curds from that? What are you doing with the curds, draining out the whey with cheese cloth?
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Old 01-15-2022, 02:55 PM
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Once the yogurt is ready, the pot stays one or two days in the fridge. I spoon out about the half into a sieve lined up with a cloth and let it drip over night or a whole day.

If I don't want to use it as a cheese, it is enough to let it drain a few hours. The texture would be like greek full fat yogurt, but with less fat as the original fat content was 3,5 and ends up at about 11%. Ideal for desserts! (You will love mixing with mango and black cardamom ...! No sugar needed!)

If you let it sit, the whole curd is much more tangy, which I don't like as much. But thats just my preference.

I still have to try adding Lactobacillus reuteri to the milk and the normal starter.
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Old 01-15-2022, 03:09 PM
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I thought you might be doing something like that. I have done similar but usually I just grab a contianer, mix in honey and/or raisins and chopped walnuts and drink it like a milk shake.
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Old 01-15-2022, 03:13 PM
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Yes ... ... most of the yogurt does not survive to be turned into curd!!
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Old 01-15-2022, 03:19 PM
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When my kids were young, I used to make yogurt similar to TZ's method. I poured into half pint mason jars and sat on a seedling heat mat. Old trick from a fellow La Leche League coach.
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Old 01-17-2022, 07:56 PM
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My sister bought me an InstaPot and it has a preprogrammed yogurt setting on it. A couple years back when I had time to bring the milk up to temp and such, I was making it a lot. So much better than store bought! Should do it again soon...
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Old 01-18-2022, 05:44 AM
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You should!
It's the difference between 'food' and 'product'.
You know what is in it, because you mix it.
Possibly it is even cheaper: over here it is.

And:
It is fun making it and visibly links your actions to your (gut)health. Perfect for low carb and keto kitchen. Tasty basic ingredient for a lot of dishes.

The next steps (for me) will be mascarpone, apple vinegar or (and?!) sauerkraut.
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Old 01-18-2022, 08:05 AM
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I have a great recipe for mascarpone from husband's grandma (they're Italian). It's super easy and only two ingredients.

My family is German. We've been making our own sauerkraut since before the first ones came over on the boat in early1800s. Also very easy, two ingredients.

My cousin makes all our vinegar, and the best wines and brandy, so I don't know how to make apple vinegar, but I'm sure it's easy.

I'll put it here in recipes after more coffee kicks in. And of course all put something store-bought to shame. Kinda like bread, right?
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