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Old 09-23-2024, 01:55 PM
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No, this was sold to me as d. lodd.
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Sorry Natalie. This should be right from Seattle orchids.
I must say though, the blooms are to me almost identical,it is the one and only bloom Ive had so far. Thanks for the heads up.
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My Phals all live on windowsills that receive a few hours of direct sunlight each day with no ill-effects. In fact they hardly ever stop blooming! The light intensity will be lower than many OB members since I live in the UK. Some of my Phals live on east-facing sills receiving a few hours of morning sunshine whereas others are west facing getting their sunshine in the afternoon.
I believe most if not all plants love early morning and late afternoon sun, even in the summer, albeit at a lower duration further decreased by the natural warmth of your climate. You'd be hard pressed to find any plant (most mosses and algae included) that would have any objections to such low intesity sunlight. During winter, the most dangerous part of that light, it's warmth, is diminished, needing much more to cause the same kind of damage/changes.

Low light and shade loving plants don't hate the sun; they just like it better when it doesn't burn a hole in them.
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It does look to me more like Den aphyllum (pierardii) (the amount of pink in the throat is quite variable) than Den loddigesii (the yellow throat is pretty characteristic) Both species grow under the same conditions, both tend to be deciduous (and bloom on bare canes)
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I think in that regard they are much like us people!
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The growth habit of loddigesii is also quite distinctive - it grows lots of keikis and rambles around messily, forming mats of canes.

Here's a close up of my loddigesii for comparison.
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All I see is a bloom
Did you look at both my pics?
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I have had about seven kekiis, tried to detatch and save but only have one left alive now .
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All I see is a bloom
Did you look at both my pics?
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I have had about seven kekiis, tried to detatch and save but only have one left alive now .
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Yes, I only posted a pic of the bloom to show how yellow the throat usually is in comparison to the pic of the bloom you included in your first post (including a screenshot of it here again for comparison). I've attached also a pic of the scrambly growth habit of mine (which corresponds to what I see in 99% of the images I've seen of this plant as well). Mine would have far more keikis on the ends of the growths there, but I twisted them off and mounted them on treefern as you can see in the background. Half of the plant you see potted is actually matured keikis too, so you can see how this plant's growth habit is almost like ground cover.

It just doesn't look like loddigesii to my eyes! Perhaps it is simply a different cultivar and you're lucky with such upright growth habit, or perhaps it's a primary hybrid of some kind, or maybe tags got mixed up? I'm sure that happens sometimes. In any case, if your tag says loddigesii then that's what it says - I'm just curious because it looks very different from the examples of this plant that I've seen, and my own plant.
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Look closely at my last pic, also I think most of the upright growth was tied up to a stick. I probably did that.
I could have been misled by the ones that sold it to me but they are usually pretty good(so far)
Are you having luck with the keikiis, So far Im not.
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Look closely at my last pic, also I think most of the upright growth was tied up to a stick. I probably did that.
I could have been misled by the ones that sold it to me but they are usually pretty good(so far)
Are you having luck with the keikiis, So far Im not.
I'm really sorry, but your pics are incredibly small, so it's hard to see anything at all. But if you mean the plant in the hanging pot in the top of the pic with the reasonably long canes, those canes look to be longer than described for loddigesii too (the canes look to my eyes to be 25cm+ no? it's really hard to see with the size of the pics).

In any case, no one is suggesting anyone was mislead - even well reputed growers can get labels mixed up sometimes - they could even have received it mislabelled from a supplier and have no idea. I don't know how many times I've bloomed out a plant only to realise it's not what I ordered - and from all different sorts of nurseries. It's not uncommon.

I have 3 mounted keikis - they're all doing well atm (touch wood ). I'll see if new growths take off well next year though since I'm currently preparing them for going into winter.
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I also sometimes get mis-identified plants. Occasional dissapointments, but more often turns out to be a pleasent surprise, even a bonus more special and interesting than what I ordered. Since most vendors get flasks or seedlings from other sources and grow them up to the point of being ready to sell, if they are unbloomed they likely won't be aware of mis-identifications.
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