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Old 05-16-2022, 12:40 AM
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I bought this paph stonei from online seller.
I wonder if this paph still can be save?
The root look very dry and i think this is a rootless paph. The leaves look wilted.
Appreciate everyone advise on this

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Yes. Paph. roots look different from other orchid roots. They are brown from the time they form, not white like other orchid roots. That plant is not in great shape but with good care it should survive.

Pot the plant into medium that can stay moist but still has lots of air. I don't know what you have available in Malaysia. Many people use orchid bark alone, or mixed with perlite. Some people use LECA expanded clay.
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Yes. Paph. roots look different from other orchid roots. They are brown from the time they form, not white like other orchid roots. That plant is not in great shape but with good care it should survive.

Pot the plant into medium that can stay moist but still has lots of air. I don't know what you have available in Malaysia. Many people use orchid bark alone, or mixed with perlite. Some people use LECA expanded clay.
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Yes i have bark, coconut husk, leca, perlite plus volcanic rock. Not sure how long I have to wait for the first root to grow?
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Paphs grow slowly, and multifloral Paphs grow extremely slowly. So be patient. As ES noted, roots don't look that bad. The plant does seem dehydrated, and before potting, perhaps give it a little special treatment - this from Mary Gerritsen, a very knowledgeable grower and author in the US:


1. Make up a solution of sugar water, room temperature. This is 1 to 2 tsp (4-8 g) of table sugar per gallon (4 L) of water.
2. Place the roots (not stem or leaves) into the sugar water solution. If you have more than one plant, prepare a different solution for each plant and soak them in separate containers.
3. Let the plants soak for 1 to 3 hours in the sugar water solution.
4. Remove the plant from the solution and wash the roots off with more water (without sugar). Gently pat dry with a paper towel.

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You have several options. Have you grown Paphiopedilum orchids before?

How humid is your growing area? If it is high I would use about 75% orchid bark mixed with about 25% perlite or volcanic rock or LECA. If it is not high I would also mix in a little, less than 25%, coconut husk chips. You could also use 100% LECA but if you haven't grown orchids like that before I wouldn't start with this one.

Choose a pot that will hold all the roots but is not much larger. Drain holes in the bottom are necessary but not on the sides. Soak the roots in water for 30-60 minutes so they soften. Pot the plant with all the roots into the medium, and have the medium level a little above the root zone on the plant. You don't need to press down the medium tightly. It will settle, and you don't want to damage roots. Water well so the medium is thoroughly wet and water runs out the bottom holes..

This kind of Paph. like brighter light than other kinds of Paphs, but while it is recovering I would give it bright shade. Water so the medium never dries completely but it does not stay wet. This will depend on the temperature and humidity in your growing area. It might be every few days if it is warm with low humidity, or once a week if it is very humid.

If you have any access to kelp products for rooting plants that might help stimulate root growth.
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Paphs grow slowly, and multifloral Paphs grow extremely slowly. So be patient. As ES noted, roots don't look that bad. The plant does seem dehydrated, and before potting, perhaps give it a little special treatment - this from Mary Gerritsen, a very knowledgeable grower and author in the US:


1. Make up a solution of sugar water, room temperature. This is 1 to 2 tsp (4-8 g) of table sugar per gallon (4 L) of water.
2. Place the roots (not stem or leaves) into the sugar water solution. If you have more than one plant, prepare a different solution for each plant and soak them in separate containers.
3. Let the plants soak for 1 to 3 hours in the sugar water solution.
4. Remove the plant from the solution and wash the roots off with more water (without sugar). Gently pat dry with a paper towel.

Can i replace sugar with rooting hormone such as vitamin B1 or should I add both together or just sugar will do?
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You have several options. Have you grown Paphiopedilum orchids before?

How humid is your growing area? If it is high I would use about 75% orchid bark mixed with about 25% perlite or volcanic rock or LECA. If it is not high I would also mix in a little, less than 25%, coconut husk chips. You could also use 100% LECA but if you haven't grown orchids like that before I wouldn't start with this one.

Choose a pot that will hold all the roots but is not much larger. Drain holes in the bottom are necessary but not on the sides. Soak the roots in water for 30-60 minutes so they soften. Pot the plant with all the roots into the medium, and have the medium level a little above the root zone on the plant. You don't need to press down the medium tightly. It will settle, and you don't want to damage roots. Water well so the medium is thoroughly wet and water runs out the bottom holes..

This kind of Paph. like brighter light than other kinds of Paphs, but while it is recovering I would give it bright shade. Water so the medium never dries completely but it does not stay wet. This will depend on the temperature and humidity in your growing area. It might be every few days if it is warm with low humidity, or once a week if it is very humid.

If you have any access to kelp products for rooting plants that might help stimulate root growth.
Yes I do have paph in my collection such as niveum, exul, concolor and barbatum.

My area is very hot especially these few months. My balcony is facing NE with moring sun from 8am to 12pm. The temperature can reach up to 35C to 37C. Unfortunately I don't have the measurement of my balcony humidity and I presume it is very low base on the temperature above.

Actually yes u r right I have not grown orchid like this before. All the paph that i bought previously come with a good root. The seller ship it bare root without any medium but the roots are hairy and plump. This is my first encounter with paph with such pblm.

Before I plant in the pot do I need to remove those dead root?

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Use sugar. Don't substitute. I think that the mechanism is to raise the osmotic pressure of the water a little. And the sugar might even give the plant a bit of boost.

Don't remove any roots. Even a bad root is better than no root (can help hydrate the plant) and especially with Paphs it is hard to tell which roots are bad.
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Do you have room for this plant inside your house? I would try to give it lower temperatures than 35-37C until it has absorbed more water and begun growing.
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Do you have room for this plant inside your house? I would try to give it lower temperatures than 35-37C until it has absorbed more water and begun growing.
Yes I have but the light is quite dim.
I can either put it at the toilet or yard.

This is the result of my repot
At the bottom I put lava rock and on top and in between the hole of lava rock I put leca then I mix leca, charcoal and coconut husk.

Hope the plant survive.
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