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Originally Posted by Roberta (Post 981754)

How about Sobralias? Particularly S. macrantha or any of its hybrids.

Ohh I LOVE It!!!!
Going to hunt It...

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Originally Posted by estación seca (Post 981755)

There is also the bamboo orchid Arundina graminifolia. I don't think it would become invasive in a Mediterranean climate, since it needs summer water.

Neobenthamia gracilis according to IOSPE grows in the tropics at 380-2000 meters so should take your winters without problems. Stephen (isurus79) grows it outdoors in Texas so it takes heat and sun.

And you might be able to grow Cymbidiums in the ground.

Great Thks ES. Love the Bamboo choice.
I have something similar to Neobenthamia..but purple.
No need to be on the ground ..just that could get full sun

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Originally Posted by camille1585 (Post 981783)

Max tenuifolia might fit the bill, if you don't already have one. They love full sun providing you water the heck out of them.

I have one actually 😃, you already know my taste, though. But not in full sun, and not much room in the house for it in winter, since as far as I know shouldn't get below 14°. Only flower in spring ..and is getting bigger and bigger. I love it though.

Do you think it could handle the Winter out door ????

I grow Max tenuifolia outside. So if acclimated, I think that it should handle low temperatures close to freezing. It isn't full sun though, still it benefits from rather bright light.

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Originally Posted by isurus79 (Post 981787)

There are many Cyrtopodiums that fit this description.

You're pretty far north, so I bet Laelia anceps, Cattleya purpurata, and Cattleya intermedia would also work.

Have a Cat Purpurata and other few, but freak me out to let her outdoor in winter. I'll ask my fav vendor what is available in the Leila's and Cats range, wish are definitely my favorite big flower orchids. However, I am telling you ..as soon as is below 10°... I have panic attacks and end up moving them indoor.

But mainly, what I need is a full SUN 😎 acceptance!

Thks Steve

Full sun does limit choices a bit... And season. (As for temperature, I joke with Ivan Portilla of Ecuagenera whenever I see him at a show with C. puruprata labeled "I/W" I say, "Please don't tell MY plants"! Mine are quite happy outside, and don't even get overhead protection from rain. But they don't get full sun... 60% shade cloth over them) L. anceps and Cymbidiums will certainly manage both cold and full sun, but are not summer bloomers. Look for those Sobralias...

Another one that is fine with full sun (in fact, needs it to bloom well) is Oerstidella schweinfurthiana . Great color, long blooming.

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Originally Posted by estación seca (Post 981808)

How many days does the temperature go over 40C? What is the humidity then? During that time how cool are the nights? Is there steady wind on hot days or is the air still?

Here we go ... Humidity is high all year around; winter 60% - summer 80%. But my setup has a great breeze - ventilation and I have automatic irrigation and water mysting system.

https://i.imgur.com/O1mnabT.png

Your climate looks very similar to mine. Just a little warmer in summer but not much. You have much higher humidity.(Good for the orchids, I have to water a lot) Winter looks pretty much like mine. So you very likely can grow the same things outside that I do.

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Originally Posted by Roberta (Post 981817)

Phal. Little One ... don't be fooled by the genus "Phalaenopsis" ... it is a primary hybrid of Hygrochilus parishii (now Phal. hygrochila) and Sedirea japonica (now Phal. japonica) Both parents are very cold-tolerant and reclassifying them "Phalaenopsis" doesn't change their actual culture. The hybrid is easier to grow than the parents (and both are pretty easy too), can bloom twice a year, and is fragrant. And a fairly small plant. So it looks like a Vanda, named Phalaenosis, and grows very nicely on my patio with chilly winter nights and summer heat. But it will need a bit of shading against the summer noonday sun so might not fill the need.

I have both!!!
But Roberta, these 2 in full sun are impossible. Actually I have a leave burn in the Sedirea japonica just for a 1 day window ray of light... Beside both growing super slow for me.

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Originally Posted by Roberta (Post 981883)

Ok! I think we discussed that in the past, but I thought you didn't get below 10°. Saying that, do you suggest to take out my Catts now that I don't have that much rain, but still 7-8° at least 1 hour at night.

This could limited flower production for the spring bloomers?

There is no emergency...I just want to get out and not using more lighting. During the day is stunning 😍 right now.

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Originally Posted by Roberta (Post 981881)

Full sun does limit choices a bit... And season.

Ya, but remember she's at the same latitude as New York City, so the sun is not very strong. Coupled with the mild summer temps, I think that opens up a lot more possibilities than so many other places!

I have had s few nights of winter temperatures down to 3 or 4 deg C (35-36 deg F) Days are warmer though... I consider a high of 14 deg C (58 deg F) cold... so that is another factor if it doesn't warm up during the day to compensate for cold nights. Also less rain... It rained quite a lot for about 2 weeks in December, there has been essentially nothing since. ("Rain" comes from a hose or sprinkler where I live) Quite a few days with humidity of 20% or occasionally less. So my orchids are pretty tough.

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Originally Posted by Roberta (Post 981881)

I will thanks a lot!!!
In "winter only' Cymbs and Dend Nobile and are in full sun.

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Originally Posted by isurus79 (Post 981887)

So, I should risk a bit more and try to setting up a year-round outdoor choices ?