a good outdoor orchid rec for southern spain climate? - Page 3 - Orchid Board

Roberta · #21 10-11-2021, 03:37 PM

People much farther inland than I am successfully grow L. anceps outside - low temps very close to, or slightly below freezing more often than I experience them, and summer highs much hotter (and drier) for longer. I think even tougher than Cymbidiums, since L. anceps is also drought-tolerant. When cold, rain protection is good, though - a dry orchid will tolerate a lot more cold than a wet one.

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Found the picture that I was looking for... a L anceps growing in a tree in the San Fernando Valley north of Los Angeles (inland, very hot summers, and chilly winters). I don't know how the owner does the watering, I suspect with a hose. This photo is some years old... I recall reading on a forum somewhere that he had a big problem with thieves stealing spikes, in front of his house so not protected from predators.

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tmoney · #22 10-14-2021, 01:24 AM

well, as usual we couldn’t help ourselves! went to the local plant store yesterday before lunch and they had 2 orchids to sell, a cymbidium and a dendrobium, both no ids. so we bought em anyways, hahaha. we have also got his girlfriend on board and she is very good with plants and i think that they will do good under her care. the cymbidium is huge and in flower (yellow) so i think he will be more on board since there are some out of season flowers to enjoy. my morning job is to get them set up in their corner and get the water going to em....we will see how they do when we come back next time, hopefully they are still alive. thanks for the suggestions and input everybody!

Roberta · #23 10-14-2021, 10:33 AM

That Cym is really nice. Next spring, you should repot to a bigger pot. With even a small amount of care, it should be fine. The Den, it depends on what kind - if the Phalanopsis type, it's not going to be happy outside. If one of the temperate-zone Aussie Dens (like kingianum or speciosum, including hybrids in that group) they'll be fine.

SADE2020 · #24 10-14-2021, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tmoney

well, as usual we couldn’t help ourselves! went to the local plant store yesterday before lunch and they had 2 orchids to sell, a cymbidium and a dendrobium, both no ids. so we bought em anyways, hahaha. we have also got his girlfriend on board and she is very good with plants and i think that they will do good under her care. the cymbidium is huge and in flower (yellow) so i think he will be more on board since there are some out of season flowers to enjoy. my morning job is to get them set up in their corner and get the water going to em....we will see how they do when we come back next time, hopefully they are still alive. thanks for the suggestions and input everybody!

We are into Cymb season. However those plants are from Netherlands big distributor, they are genetic trigger to acclimate as you might know.

Good luck!

tmoney · #25 10-15-2021, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SADE2020

We are into Cymb season. However those plants are from Netherlands big distributor, they are genetic trigger to acclimate as you might know.

Good luck!

hey sade, not sure what you mean. could you elaborate a bit? gracias!

SADE2020 · #26 10-15-2021, 07:37 PM

Sorry, what I mean is; firts that in our weather Cyms are not even starting to bloom yet (maybe in the North of spain, but not on the south), the 2nd point is that those plants come from a big orchid farm in Holand and they are hybrid specially designed to survive lots of kind of environment; meaning that they are stronger and less fussy than the one growing in a dedicated orchid nursery, for example, the ones in Germany.

Conclusion: your father in law should be fine growing these two plants form a genetic point of view as long as some sun is available and no froze is allowed.

Roberta · #27 10-15-2021, 07:49 PM

Cyms have different bloom seasons, depending on the parentage... I have a few that are done, and a few more in bloom or advanced bud. Most, indeed, will be doing their thing later, though... some in December/January, more of them February/March/April. With enough of them, one ends up with only a month or two that are truly Cymbidium-less. So that may just be one of the early ones... maybe a Cym. Golden Elf hybrid (true of a lot of the early yellow ones)

tmoney · #28 10-15-2021, 11:18 PM

ahhh, ok, thanks for clearing up my confusion! i know what you mean sade, and honestly, because our knowledge is so limited i just automatically assume that a plant we buy in flower has been force flowered and is not in its true season. and we will see how they do with them, but knowing his girlfriend they will be nice and plump when we see them again. if she’s into them, perhaps more will end up around the farm in the future!

Roberta · #29 10-15-2021, 11:31 PM

The Cym might have had its season manipulated, but it could also be one that is genetically predisposed to bloom early (like now). You'll find out next year. If it is truly an early one, you will then want to get another one that blooms later... and another one... etc. If you have enough of them, bought in bloom a different times, you can end up with a Cymbidium season that lasts from September/October to April/May. (Any given plant will stay in bloom for 6 weeks to 2 months, but if they start at different times, the season is extended.)

tmoney · #30 10-16-2021, 08:45 AM

thanks for the tips roberta, we will have to see if we get updates on the progress of these plants, or just see how they are when we visit next. fingers crossed they’re still alive, but if not, oh well! and yes, we will keep our eyes peeled for other cymbs that if they are into them we can add some more later on.