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Old 01-24-2024, 04:24 PM
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Like everything else "orchid" the "right" answer is likely "it depends". There has been a lot of study on techniques to optimize growth and blooming for commercially-produced Phalaenopsis - it's a huge cash crop. Every factor (light, temperature, fertilizer formulation-concentration-frequency, water, and timing of variations in all of those) is optimized for that monoculture crop, The goal is to get lots of blooming plants to market fast, especially for flower-buying holidays.

For those of us who grow examples of the rest of the 800-900 orchid genera (not counting the human-made ones) under a range of conditions suitable to them and manageable for us, the "rules" that work for those mass-produced Phals likely are not appropriate in that broader "orchid world". It's both "less complicated" in that one can get very good results with less-than-optimum conditions, and "more complicated" in that different orchid types have different needs, often very different at different times of the year, and one's success is likely to improve with understanding of the differences.
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I agree with you Roberta, I'm learning that growing culture is the primary factor -- and is far more important than fert selection. I read your "101 culture notes" prior to potting these orchids. Your note re air circulation is 100% accurate. The orchid in the green pot is the smallest by far. The green pot orchid is in an internal plastic pot with holes, but the external green pot restricts air circulation compared to the open red tin that the other 3 orchids are planted in. I believe this factor caused the green pot orchid to grow about 30% less than the others in the red tin, with all other factors being roughly the same. When I repot next spring, I'm going to find a pot that allows more air circulation.

Coincidentally, the first flower is beginning to open today!
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If you have the space to get some of these outside once the weather warms up, they'll love it. Air circulation provided by Mother Nature tends to be better than anything what we mere humans can manage, and the natural variation in light and temperature also can work wonders. For me, Phals and such need to stay in, but I have found that the orchids that could grow indoors or outdoors do better when they get outdoors. (Of course, I can get away with more "outdoors" than you can, but come spring/summer your "outdoors" will be viable too.)
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One thing to consider is that all the initial progenitor cells are formed well before before they become flower cells. If you want to experiment with this you need to make sure these cells can divide initially and to their genetic potential... this is why calcium is so important to plant growth and performance.

For example, major deficiencies of calcium cause Cattleya growths to blacken abort. Intermediate or minor deficiencies will almost always limit the size of the growth and interrupt reproductive processes aka flowering, pollination, seedpod formation (this is true for most flowering plants).

If you want to experiment with this on Phals experiment with different nutrition regimes based on your observations of when critical growth periods. I'd also check the literature because there is a lot of phaleanopsis research due to its economic importance.
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Ray, I just saw your question. I measure the ferts with a gram scale. I use .625 grams of K-Lite per liter of water. And half (.312 g) of Miracle Gro per liter of water. I try to get 75 ppm for each solution. Each orchid gets approx. 1/3 liter on the pour through watering day once a week. Mid-week (if they are dry enough) I spray the top soil with a 75 ppm fert solution from a spray bottle (this dries out faster than the pour through.)

Note: the directions on the K-Lite bottle say to use .57 grams of fert per liter to get 75 ppm. I don't know if my math is wrong, but I took a pic of my formulas to get 75 ppm per liter.
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The bottle does say “approximate” and if my math is mathing, it’s close enough. I wouldn’t worry about it.
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Ray, I just saw your question. I measure the ferts with a gram scale. I use .625 grams of K-Lite per liter of water. And half (.312 g) of Miracle Gro per liter of water. I try to get 75 ppm for each solution. Each orchid gets approx. 1/3 liter on the pour through watering day once a week. Mid-week (if they are dry enough) I spray the top soil with a 75 ppm fert solution from a spray bottle (this dries out faster than the pour through.)

Note: the directions on the K-Lite bottle say to use .57 grams of fert per liter to get 75 ppm. I don't know if my math is wrong, but I took a pic of my formulas to get 75 ppm per liter.
The K-Lite measurement is right on, but why AND Miracle Gro? The K-Lite alone - or Miracle Gro alone, if you've calculated it correctly - are sufficient.
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I wrote that clumbsily. They are separate solutions. One liter of water has .625 grams of K-Lite. The other liter of water has .312 grams of Miracle Gro. Each 1 liter solution contains 75 ppm of Nitrogen.
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