Cattleya flower terminology

[SouthPark]

From this thread ----- Click Here ....... would anybody happen to know what the slender 'waist-like' region is called that is seen in some cattleya flowers, such as the region marked in red?



The image is of a C. Clinton flower.

[SouthPark]

Also interesting that there appears to be no other C. Clinton flower seen online, except on OrchidBoard - as far as I know so far, which is nice.

[estación seca]

You could call that the isthmus of the lip.

[SouthPark]

ES ----- that particular word describes it excellently. Thanks very much ES.

[ArronOB]

Isn’t that the mesochile

As in

Hypochile - the bit where the labellum meets the calyx
Mesochile - the next bit
Epichile - the outermost part of the labellum, which is usually the largest and widest

Source Wikipedia

[SouthPark]

Thanks Arron! It could be too. I can see images on the internet with pics of stanhopea flowers with the term mesochile marked on it.

Link 1

Link 2

Not sure why they did it for stanhopea only, and not for a catt.

But ----- both these terms isthmus and mesochile are definitely going to help, and allows us to at least convey what we want to convey!

Thanks very much Arron and ES.

[sam1147]

There were some doubts concerning the identity of my plant.This is from C&H ::
From: Carter and Holmes Orchids <carterholmessales@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2020 7:31 PM
To: Shmuel Ziv <moranziv@bezeqint.net>
Subject: Re: FW: New customer message on July 24, 2020 at 3:50 am

Hello Shmuel,
The plant in your photos does indeed look like Brassocattleya [Bc.] Clinton (C. bicolor x Bc. Beth Eden)
It was something we offered a very long time ago, and more recently sold the divisions remaining in our collection.
Happy Growing,
Bridget Uzar