Login
User Name
Password   


Registration is FREE. Click to become a member of OrchidBoard community
(You're NOT logged in)

menu menu

Sponsor

 

Google


Register Members Today's Posts

Limited Guest Access ... Welcome to the Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web !. You are currently viewing our boards as a GUEST, which gives You very limited access and no posting privileges. Register and gain full access to everything on the site. OrchidBoard membership is completely free with no tricks or gimmicks. We work very hard to make this the best and friendliest Orchid forum possible. If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact support.
Go Back   Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web ! > Orchid Board > General Orchid Care
How to Grow Hardcane Dendrobiums
By emntee at 2007-01-28 10:21

How to Grow Hardcane Dendrobiums The Easy Way

  1. Give them plenty of light. Right up to the point of sunburn, then back off a little. That means increase the shade. They like lots of light, it helps them to flower.
  2. Don’t worry about humidity. Whatever your humidity normally is, will be just fine. If it's good enough for your Cattleyas and Cymbidiums, then it's good enough for Hardcane Dendrobiums.
  3. There is no need to fertilize. They will grow quite well without fertilizer. (They do in the wild)
  4. Don't bother about repotting hardcanes. The roots will leap out of the pot and go where they want anyway. So repotting shouldn't be a worry.
  5. Don't worry about water quality. Tap water will do just fine. Or bore water. Or dirty dishwater if you must.

But pay attention, because this is THE REALLY CRITICAL BIT.
In winter ;-

  1. Do Not Water Overhead. Keep The Rain Off.
  2. Do Not Allow Them To Stay Wet.
  3. Keep Them Away From Cold Winds.
  4. Always Allow The Pot To Dry Out Before Watering Again.
  5. COLD + WET = ROT

If you take this advice, your hardcane dendrobiums WILL grow. I promise. I know people who grow them like this all the time. Grown this way, they often don’t flower at their best. But they will grow and they will flower.

How To Grow Hardcane Dendrobiums So they Flower Better.
The information on light intensity in (1) above is quite relevant. Hardcanes do like lots of light and there are some types that will even grow in full sun. (But don't try that just yet). Around 50% humidity will suffice for hardcane dendrobiums, but 60% to 70% would be even better. Forget about humidity above 70%. It's more trouble than it's worth. At that level you get condensation form on the ceiling which drips down on your plants. That’s a real no-no. And they don't need that much humidity anyway.

If you fertilize in the growing season, (the end of winter, spring and into summer) they will grow GOOD. A fertilizer high in nitrogen makes for strong healthy canes. After they mature, (around mid summer to mid autumn) change to a low nitrogen, high potassium fertilizer. This is not really difficult - just read the back of the packet where the ingredients are. There are plenty of fertilizers around, so pick and choose.

Fertilize once a week or once a fortnight, very weakly from the time new growth starts until flowering. After flowering there is often a dormant period until the new spring growth appears. No need to waste fertilizer when there is no growth.

A word of warning.
Some hardcanes grow BIG. Like, 2-3 meters tall (you have heard of Jack and his beanstalk) If you have one of these, either have a high ceiling or ease up on the fertilizer. Most hardcanes are medium size (under 1 meter) and some are miniatures (under 30cm) so buy you hardcanes according to your ceiling height.

Hardcane dendrobiums like to be repotted. You may not think so when you have just finished repotting and the ~@#%&* thing won't stay in the pot. Yes, I know. Been there, done that. Try this. When you see the new growth coming, that’s the time to repot. New growth, new roots. Make sense?

Alright, try this for more good sense. Hardcanes tend to grow tall, and then send out flower spikes from the top. The centre of gravity is HIGH. Result:- They fall over. Solution:- Heavy pot.

I don't like clay pots, which you would think should be the obvious solution, because when they are dry, they tend to suck the moisture from the roots. Try a large deep plastic pot with half a house brick in it (or similar). Now, I know that this is sacrilege. All the books say that hardcanes should be underpotted. And so they can be if you live in the tropics. (If you live in the tropics, you can dispense with the pot entirely) If your hardcane was living in its natural condition - on a tree - it would send it's roots out thither and yon. Metres and metres of roots, all latching on to trunk or branch. A large pot is but a poor excuse for a tree. So, (blasphemy) overpot.

If your hardcane wants to fall out of its new pot, shove a long stick down the pot and tie the cane to it until new root growth locks the plant, the pot and the potting mix together.

Your scheme water quality may be poor. (There’s an understatement). If you are in a position to use rainwater, then do so. Hardcanes grow just fine in rainwater. OK, so you don’t have rainwater. Like most folks you have to use second best. Tap water! (Yuk) Never mind. If that’s all you have, then it will do. You just have to put up with salt buildup on your pots and leaves etc. Give them a good flush out every now and then. It’s the least you can do.
Now this is the IMPORTANT BIT! Are you paying attention?
Here is the recipe for killing a hardcane dendrobium.
Get it wet. Get it cold. Keep it that way.
Result? Dead Dendrobium. I give you my personal guarantee!
OK? Am I getting through to you? You understand the problem, so here is the solution.

Don’t get them cold and wet. They don’t like it. They can take some wet and some cold, but not both together.
How you achieve these ends is up to you, but some suggestions may help.
In winter ;- You could take them into the house. (They housetrain easily)

  1. Only water on warm days and then allow the pot to dry out.
  2. During the dormant period you hardly need to water at all.
  3. Only water the roots, not overhead.
  4. Put a wind break around them.
  5. Keep them warm. (10C upwards)
  6. Use your imagination.

If you do these things, your Hardcane Dendrobium will grow and flower just fine.
How to Make a Hardcane Dendrobium Sit up and Beg.
  1. Do all of the above.
  2. Build a greenhouse.
  3. Install a thermostatically controlled heater, set to a minimum 13C.

You only need it for the winter months and they’ll love you for it.

Tony Watkinson

8 comments | printer friendly version

by marka on Sun, 2007-01-28 19:50
What are some names of hardcanes?? Could you name some species?

by Tindomul on Mon, 2007-01-29 01:35
Good Article, now I have a little more idea of do's and don'ts for my little NOID dendrobium. Thanks! This was helpful.

by hamizao on Wed, 2007-02-28 05:33
Well, I learned something today. Good tips there and thanks.

by Alexis in Redland on Wed, 2007-02-28 12:05
I totally disagree that they don't need fertilizer and that they don't get any in nature. Orchids in nature get plenty of nutrients in the rainwater, in decaying plant material, in animal droppings, etc.

Fertilizing your orchids makes for stronger plants (which grow faster, resist bug attacks better, resist disease attack better, forgive temperature extremes easier, put out roots faster) and better, more frequent blooming.

My Dendrobiums bloom on multiple spikes and the flowers last upwards of 6 months at a time. But fertilizing them is critical!

by Tindomul on Thu, 2007-03-01 03:58
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexis in Redland View Post
I totally disagree that they don't need fertilizer and that they don't get any in nature.

You know, I didn't catch that statement. You are quite right. But I assume the author ment man made fertilizer. However everyone needs some kind of nourishment. Especially an epiphyte.
Good catch.

by justatypn on Thu, 2007-03-01 04:22
I look at any type of plant as a self...we like water, to much we tend to shrivel to little we dehydrate, we like food, it keeps us healthy, we like it dark at nights, helps us sleep and build up strength, we like the light either it be direct/bright/medium to low it gives us energy and with this we mature into healthy beings and with this our plants show us how happy happy happy they are...

by emntee on Sat, 2007-03-31 00:05
Hi Alex in redland, who either didn't read the whole article or failed to understand what I said regarding fertilizer. The first bit of the article, "How to Grow Hardcane Dendrobiums The Easy Way" is a bit tongue in cheek and intended to show that Hardcanes can be grown with almost total neglect. I have seen it done this way and they do grow and flower. Not well but the still manage to survive.

Point 3. "There is no need to fertilize. They will grow quite well without fertilizer. (They do in the wild)" could probably be reworded as " They grow quite well with almost no fertilizer"

If you they read further down under the heading "How To Grow Hardcane Dendrobiums So they Flower Better"
you will see that fertilizer is mentioned again.
"If you fertilize in the growing season, (the end of winter, spring and into summer) they will grow GOOD. A fertilizer high in nitrogen makes for strong healthy canes. After they mature, (around mid summer to mid autumn) change to a low nitrogen, high potassium fertilizer. This is not really difficult - just read the back of the packet where the ingredients are. There are plenty of fertilizers around, so pick and choose.

Fertilize once a week or once a fortnight, very weakly from the time new growth starts until flowering. After flowering there is often a dormant period until the new spring growth appears. No need to waste fertilizer when there is no growth."

And to Marka who asks me to name some of the species... The Phalaenanthe shape (that's the ones shaped something like a Phalaenopsis) are bred from Den. bigibbum, Den phalaenopsis and orchids of that kind. (The names seem to vary and change depending on who the taxonomist is) These have been crossed with Dens from some of the other Dendrobium sections which have more open flowers.

Most of the hybrids with the Phalaenanthe shape tend to flower once a year and require more warmth. The Intermediate Dens (which have a more open flower) can flower many times a year if they are grown well and are happy. The easiest to grow are the Intermediate hybrids as they are very forgiving. For a looong list of the species, see "Dendrobium and its Relatives" by Lavarack, Harris, & Stocker

Good growing

Tony

by Alexis in Redland on Tue, 2007-04-03 15:04
Mea culpa, Tony - as a matter of fact, I didn't realize there was more to the article than what I read in the post. I got to your point #3, and judged your info as being inaccurate; and I was concerned that a new grower would think fertilizer was unnecessary.

Living in South Florida, I fertilize year 'round because we are warm all year. Granted I go lighter and less frequently in winter, but even then, I wouldn't completely withhold fert. One has to consider their individual growing conditions when reading other folks' advice...

read full thread
 
Member Article Categories
- Beginner Topics (4)
- Fertilization & Plant Nutrition (1)
- General Orchid Care (11)
- Growing Medium (2)
- Pests & Diseases (2)
- Propagation (2)
- Pruning and Splitting
- Semi-Hydroponic (1)
- Tips & Techniques (7)
- Other (12)

New forum topics

Latest poll
Predict the outcome of the Nov election
Obama/Biden
57
McCain/Palin
30
Don't Care
3
26 comments | 61 votes

Hot forum topics

Who's online
There are currently 8 users and 19 guests online.

Online users

  • Sandy4453
  • Grandma M
  • iceicebaby
  • Mike O'C
  • Stefan
  • veekay
  • fredbuster
  • pheli

RSS Syndication

Forum RSS Forums

Articles RSS Articles

Classifieds Classifieds

Gallery Gallery


Navigation

Forum Sponsor

Forum Sponsor

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:26 AM.

© 2007 OrchidBoard.com

Vivarium TopSites Top Orchid Sites
vB Ad Management by =RedTyger=

LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.0.0

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53