Santa Barbara orchid estate question???

[peeweelovesbooks]

Originally Posted by FSUOrchids

My other concern with the quarantine thing is, would the plant be sitting in a box for a month? I'm not sure how that works.

I think if the plant sat inside a box for a month you'd receive a dead plant.

I have been told by the SBOE reps that once they receive an order destined for Florida, they put it in a cage in a quarantined area that is separate from all other orchids, and your orchid sits there for 30 days. They charge you when they mail it.

I've ordered many (and often expensive)Laelia anceps divisions and the plants arrive in perfect condition every time. Most recently, I ordered 1 of their seedling specials, which I received in December. The plants are taking off like nobody's business.

I honestly don't understand the outrage over this that some have displayed on this thread. SBOE has awesome plants. I can certainly wait 30 days for an awesome orchid---it's not the end of the world.

[TOMMYMIAMI]

Originally Posted by peeweelovesbooks

I think if the plant sat inside a box for a month you'd receive a dead plant.

I have been told by the SBOE reps that once they receive an order destined for Florida, they put it in a cage in a quarantined area that is separate from all other orchids, and your orchid sits there for 30 days. They charge you when they mail it.

I've ordered many (and often expensive)Laelia anceps divisions and the plants arrive in perfect condition every time. Most recently, I ordered 1 of their seedling specials, which I received in December. The plants are taking off like nobody's business.

I honestly don't understand the outrage over this that some have displayed on this thread. SBOE has awesome plants. I can certainly wait 30 days for an awesome orchid---it's not the end of the world.

peewee I honestly believe they have very nice and healthy plants as many has mentioned, my original question was, why they are the only ones who do quarantine, that's all, I really want to know, since I do order from so many other sellers from different websites, and many located in California.

[OCRC_Dir_China]

FLORIDA

SUMMARY OF PLANT PROTECTION REGULATIONS
Updated December 2012

Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services
Division of Plant Industry
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Plant Industry / Divisions & Offices / Home - Florida Department of Agriculture & Consumer Services

NURSERY STOCK, NOXIOUS WEED, QUARANTINES AND APIARY REGULATIONS

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GENERAL SHIPPING REQUIREMENTS

Any person, nurseryman, stock dealer, agent, or plant broker who desires to ship into this state nursery stock from any state, territory, or district of the United States, shall comply with the following regulations:

The nurseryman, stock dealer, agent or plant broker must be listed in the latest directory of registered or certified nurseries, agents, stock dealers, and plant brokers of the state where such nursery stock originated.

A valid certificate of inspection must be attached to each separate package, bundle, box, or shipment of nursery stock shipped into Florida. In club orders, one tag must be attached to each individual order and another to the package containing the individual orders.

All shipments of plants or plant products entering peninsular Florida by road are required to stop at an agricultural inspection station where they will be screened for proper certification and subject to cargo inspection by the department. All shipments of plants or plant products entering Florida through mail and parcel facilities are subject to inspection and screening for proper certification. Each shipment shall be accompanied with a bill of lading, or other valid documentation which contains the following information:
1. Name and address of shipper or consignor
2. Name and physical address of receiver or consignee
3. Description of plants or plant products in the shipment
4. Place and state/country of origin
5. Ultimate destination of shipment if other than receiver or consignee
6. Additional certification requirements for plant pest freedom for regulated commodities are listed below.
7. All documents shall be in the English Language, or shall have attached an accurate English translation containing adequate information for examination of the product.

By CITES regulation all the people flying on international flights that carry tobacco products from one country to another, is in fact breaking international law for not having Pyto papers. The air lines and customs simply look the other way. I was passing through Korea and an elderly woman was trying to take some seeds in her carry on bag. And they was giving her all kinds of grief and making threats to her. So I ask them why they allow all the smokers to carry tobacco products so freely which is part of a plant and is regulated by CITES and Korea is a member of CITES. Needless to say the situation got ugly for a while but when I fly abroad I usually are carrying orchid seeds. So I pulled out the CITES excerpts and showed them seeds are exempt and tobacco was not it took some time but she kept her seeds, I missed my flight but that’s how it goes. Laws are only as good as they are enforced, and lots of I done no problem people out there.

[JungleMel]

Originally Posted by TOMMYMIAMI

peewee I honestly believe they have very nice and healthy plants as many has mentioned, my original question was, why they are the only ones who do quarantine, that's all, I really want to know, since I do order from so many other sellers from different websites, and many located in California.

Just call them and ask! I'm sure one of the answers in here is the correct one. If they legally are a botanical garden that'll explain the different restrictions, someone mentioned that in an earlier post.

I'm about to call them myself (Heck I'll even ask for you and get you an answer at this point) and find out how much it'll cost me total w/shipping and quarantine time. I've wanted a Laelia praestans forever, and it seems like they are the only place to get one from. I'm desperate enough to pay extra to get it from them at this point, I spent 2013 trying to find one anywhere else to avoid the quarantine stuff.

[TOMMYMIAMI]

Originally Posted by JungleMel

Just call them and ask! I'm sure one of the answers in here is the correct one. If they legally are a botanical garden that'll explain the different restrictions, someone mentioned that in an earlier post.

I'm about to call them myself (Heck I'll even ask for you and get you an answer at this point) and find out how much it'll cost me total w/shipping and quarantine time. I've wanted a Laelia praestans forever, and it seems like they are the only place to get one from. I'm desperate enough to pay extra to get it from them at this point, I spent 2013 trying to find one anywhere else to avoid the quarantine stuff.

JugleMel, I did email them the first time I was planning to do the order and got the same reply as others, it is due to the snails and therefor shipping restrictions from California to Florida. I did not get the answer when I asked why others do ship from California without the quarantine. To end this thread also, I do not wish to get to some heated bottle, I truly believe they are very nice nursery with amazing plants, and as I do understand they do cross their own, so many people enjoys their orchids and have no problem to wait. Since I do want only regular orchids, nothing really specialized or crossed specially by them, I will just try to get it elsewhere faster. The issue was, my plant was listed as SPIKING therefor I would love to receive it immediately,and not after the month when the spikes will be most likely done blooming, that's all!