First Ascocentrum hybrid seedling spike
Login
User Name
Password   


Registration is FREE. Click to become a member of OrchidBoard community
(You're NOT logged in)

menu menu

Sponsor
Donate Now
and become
Forum Supporter.

First Ascocentrum hybrid seedling spike
Many perks!
<...more...>


Sponsor
 

Google


Fauna Top Sites
Register First Ascocentrum hybrid seedling spike Members First Ascocentrum hybrid seedling spike First Ascocentrum hybrid seedling spike Today's PostsFirst Ascocentrum hybrid seedling spike First Ascocentrum hybrid seedling spike First Ascocentrum hybrid seedling spike
LOG IN/REGISTER TO CLOSE THIS ADVERTISEMENT
Go Back   Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web ! > >
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-11-2024, 03:21 PM
orkkid orkkid is offline
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: Dec 2023
Posts: 26
First Ascocentrum hybrid seedling spike
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by estación seca View Post
Yes indeed.

I have Martin Mote's book Florida Vanda Growing Month by Month. It's... ummm... here on my desk somewhere under this neat pile of paper.... I bought it through the Motes Orchids Web site, and I strongly recommend it to anybody who wants to grow Vandas, even if you don't live in Florida.

Well, on the bookshelf is also Mote's Vandas: Their Botany, History and Culture. This is an older book which I found used from Amazon.

He writes Vandas grow constantly if light, temperature and water are correct. They grow much faster and bloom better if fertilizer is correct. They need much more fertilizer than any other orchids. He says to fertilize to the point the new pale green growing band at the base of the developing leaves is a centimeter long. If not that long, they need more nitrogen. If the band reaches 2cm long, that is too much fertilizer.

He writes that, for Vandas growing in warm and bright conditions, he fertilizes at every 5th watering. He waters at least once daily, twice during the hot dry season in Florida. So he fertilizes every 3-5 days.

When he fertilizes, he uses 20-20-20 at the rate of two tablespoons / 30ml of powder per gallon / 3.78 liters of water, or 1 gram per 2 liters. Yes! Two Tablespoons. That yields 1,600ppm of nitrogen, according to the calculator on the First Rays Web site.

The MSU nitrogen number is 13; to get to 1,600ppm you would need 9.3 teaspoons per gallon, or 3 Tablespoons plus one teaspoon. This volume of powder is about 12ml per liter.

He does say that with suboptimal light or temperatures, less fertilizer is needed. But he says always to judge fertilizer by the width of the pale green band at the bases of the developing leaves.

That is a large osmotic load for a plant. He uses hard, highly mineralized Florida well water in between, and to dilute his fertilizer. I guess strong Vandas aren't too concerned with high osmotic loads. Motes wins awards.

I have warm and bright conditions all year. I fertilize at almost every watering, and Motes fertilizes at every fifth watering, so I should be using about 1600/5 = 320ppm or 1.8 teaspoons per gallon / 2.4ml per liter of MSU powder.

I have noticed my growth bands are less than a centimeter wide, so it's time to binge.

In the Month by Month book he also discusses magnesium, which is not mentioned in the older book. If your fertilizer doesn't have it, you need to alternate Epsom salts solutions with fertilizer. The book is in this neat pile of paper that I don't want to disturb just now so I will have to write about that later. The MSU from First Rays has magnesium so I haven't bothered with the Epsom salts.
Do you still follow this mantra? It seems in line with what I have heard
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
night, rain, day, soak, water, kelpmax, roots, fertilizer, morning, ascocentrum, week, vases, spike, gallon, time, msu, vanda, fill, cools, bottle, spray, plants, 12-hour, 175ppm, soaking


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
V. JVB x Ascda Butterfly Dbl spike & V. Usha CR7cristiano Vanda Alliance - others 8 07-12-2013 09:49 PM
Thoughts on cutting a Phalaenopsis spike Val Beginner Discussion 10 04-18-2013 12:30 PM
Is it ok for a first spike on a Phal to keiki? myblue66stang Beginner Discussion 12 09-20-2011 06:14 PM
December status report Ross Orchid Lounge 30 12-28-2008 04:54 AM
Phalaenopsis flower spike, not sure what to do (pictures included) nutmeg_trippin' Beginner Discussion 8 08-07-2008 07:55 AM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:00 PM.

© 2007 OrchidBoard.com
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.37 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Clubs vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.