Euanthe (Vanda) sanderiana

[Amanvari]

Better and cheaper than therapy. Thanks for the post.

[walingwaling enthusiast]

Jasen, the pics you posted are of vanda masao yamada not euanthe sanderiana. The species vanda sanderiana (syn euanthe sanderiana) is originated in the Philippines, where it is endemic to Minadanao Island in the provinces of Davao, Cotabato and Zamboanga. The common name of sanderiana in the Philippines is "walingwaling".

Vanda masao yamada is lazy to bear flowers. You have to be patient for so long time to see their flowers.

Here are the pics of real euanthe sanderiana:

[gixrj18]

Originally Posted by walingwaling enthusiast

Jasen, the pics you posted are of vanda masao yamada not euanthe sanderiana. The species vanda sanderiana (syn euanthe sanderiana) is originated in the Philippines, where it is endemic to Minadanao Island in the provinces of Davao, Cotabato and Zamboanga. The common name of sanderiana in the Philippines is "walingwaling".

Vanda masao yamada is lazy to bear flowers. You have to be patient for so long time to see their flowers.

Here are the pics of real euanthe sanderiana:

It is not lazy, it produces them every year.....as a matter of fact, it is starting a spike right now, just like clockwork. What exactly is your " determining factor" that tells you it is not sanderiana?

[elitebettas]

I agree, it is Not Euthane Sanderiana. It may be a hybrid though because the lip is almost correct. Do alittle research and you will see. But it is an absolutely amazing flower!

[goodgollymissmolly]

Not for a single minute do I wish to engage in an internet identification contest from low resolution (or any other) pictures.

I would suggest however that Euanthe sanderiana is characterized by the balloon shape of the bottom of the basal portion of the lip with no hint of a spur. In your third picture look at the upper left flower (shown in partial profile) and you will see a lip seeming to have a short spur similar to Vanda Joan Viggiani 'Orchidgrove'. That hybrid is 87% sanderiana and looks almost identical to it except for the spur. Your flower also seems to have more spots of smaller size on the proximal ends of dorsal sepal and petals. That too is more like Joan Viggiani and less like sanderiana, but is not a defining characteristic.

You can see both flowers and a cut away view of the lip in plates 23, 24, and 25 of David Groves book Vandas and Ascocendas and Their Combinations with Other Genera

[gixrj18]

I don't know....I'm just not too keen on some of these determining factors that people use to identify different species. I understand that the traits carry on, but everyone always speaks of them as though these orchids just all of a sudden stopped evolving. I find it hard to positively identify something by a small variation in traits, after breeding them and seeing how diverse they are....even between siblings. I've seen many siblings that you would never guess came from the same flask. I'm not trying to start an identity arguement, I just find it hard to say that something is, or isn't a particular species just because a couple small trait differences.

[Charmkp]

Whatever type of Vanda it is, I just looove it. That shade of pink is definately unpopular where I'm from.

[walingwaling enthusiast]

Here's how to detect euanthe (vanda) sanderiana pure-bred species from the 'look-a-like' hybrids: Look at the flower on its side and take a close look at the 'lip' or 'labellum'. If the lip has a spur, then it is a hybrid.

If the vanda in question doesn't have a 'spur' like that below (my vanda), then it is a species or 'pure bred' vanda sanderiana.

[gixrj18]

Originally Posted by walingwaling enthusiast

Here's how to detect euanthe (vanda) sanderiana pure-bred species from the 'look-a-like' hybrids: Look at the flower on its side and take a close look at the 'lip' or 'labellum'. If the lip has a spur, then it is a hybrid.

If the vanda in question doesn't have a 'spur' like that below (my vanda), then it is a species or 'pure bred' vanda sanderiana.

I can't really see what you're pointing at in this picture, the resolution is too low. But as for this spur you speak of....is this to say that no sanderiana ever could be born with this small variation? This is what I don't understand. These plants are constantly evolving, and I just don't see how it would be impossible for this trait to show up on a sanderiana. Whether my plant is or is not sanderiana is of little concern to me, I just can't bring myself to believe that one little trait could be an absolute determining factor of identity....these plants are way too diverse. Whatever it is...it's blooming right now, and it's beautiful. My alba (that is definitely a sanderiana), usually blooms right after this one finishes.

[walingwaling enthusiast]

Cross-breed sanderiana has spur even the slightest spur. Pure euanthe (vanda) sanderiana has no spur. If you like to have pure eaunthe (vanda) sanderiana, i would suggest to buy at either:

a) Quezon City Office:
Waling Flowers from Davao, Manila Seedlings Bank, EDSA corner Quezon Avenue, Quezon City, Philippines. Contact Nos. (+632) 9242730, 9260159,
Fax (+632) 9241271. Website: Puentespina Orchids and Tropical Plants | Waling, Flowers from Davao


b) Davao City Head Office:
Waling Flowers from Davao
Bolcan Street, Agdao,
Davao City 8000 Philippines
Contact Nos. (+6382) 2218248, 2240172
Fax (+6382) 2211395

or

Chua's Orchid Garden
2-B Santan St., Brgy. Mintal
Tugbok District, Davao City
8022 Philippines
TeleFax: (+6382) 2930080
Mobile: (+63917) 9009307
Website: Chua's Orchid Garden

When you possess complete 3 varieties of euanthe (vanda) sanderiana species, you will be more contended and the plants are worth more than buying them.