Koyo (Kouyou)

[Hakumin]

Originally Posted by AnonYMouse

In Neo lingo, they always describe Koyo as red or pink. I don't think I've every seen "purple" or "murasaki" used.

The term Aka or Beni when used for the terms "akabana" or "benibana" means any of the red to pink to purple colors that may appear in Neofinetia flowers, including colors that would normally otherwise be referred to as "murasaki". Unless the color is perceptually more on the blue end of the spectrum. In traditional Japanese, there's less of a linguistic barrier between the individual color terms between Aka, Beni, and Murasaki, unlike in English where the colors are more strictly differentiated.

That said, if a plant is advertised as having "murasaki" colored flowers, growers in Japan would assume that the plant has flowers the color of a Darwinara Charm 'Blue Moon', not the color of your Koyo...

Originally Posted by AnonYMouse

Might be a language thing. I rarely see things described as "midori" (green) but often see "ao" (blue) instead. Example in Neos is "aojiku".

The word 青, originally refers to any color ranging from green through blue.

While lately, Ao is more associated with blue than green, it's still very much entrenched in the language in places where it would better mean green than blue. "Ao-yasai" means green vegetables, "Ao-shingo" means green traffic light.

You'll also hear the word Ryoku for green, such as Ryoku-bana for green flowers and in names such as Ryokuhou. Ryoku is a color that's strictly green and never blue.

Midori as a word that usually stands by itself and usually needs a modifier to be used as an adjective. To say "green stem" you'd say "Midoriiro no jiku" if you insist on using the term Midori. With Ao though, it's a word that is more often used as a compound word, so you can just tack it onto the word for stem and get "Aojiku".

On the other hand, Aobana would always mean "blue flower" and never "green flower" So a Hisui's flowers would described as Ryoku or Midori, and not Ao.

Overall, in the Japanese language, historically, the colors were named rather simply with large ranges of colors were collected under generalized umbrella terms. Only when individual specific shades and colors needed to be pointed out, they were then described using more specific terms. And then... in many other cases it just comes down to them being idiomatic expressions.

[katrina]

It's a beautifully rich color...even if it's not exactly what you were looking for.

Just so you know, if you want to kick it out...you can feel free to kick it my way.

[AnonYMouse]

Hakumin, thanks for the language lesson.

Originally Posted by Marco

Is the fragrance on this variety that of your typical neo?

Yup!

Originally Posted by katrina

It's a beautifully rich color...even if it's not exactly what you were looking for.

Just so you know, if you want to kick it out...you can feel free to kick it my way.

This was a little pricy (it's all relative). I got it as a 4 growth and now has 6 growths. So no kicking or abusing of any kind!

[katrina]

Originally Posted by AnonYMouse

This was a little pricy (it's all relative). I got it as a 4 growth and now has 6 growths. So no kicking or abusing of any kind!

Yea, I figured it was not your average $20 plant buy but...you know, I'm so self-sacrificing that I would gladly take it off your hands should you decide it needed to find a new home. Yea, I'm giving like that. LOL!

Seriously though...it is beautiful...the color is very nice. I'm not even slightly versed in Neos so it's possible that it's more common than I was aware but I don't believe I have ever seen one w/that color. Very nice!

[AnonYMouse]

Originally Posted by katrina

Yea, I figured it was not your average $20 plant buy but...you know, I'm so self-sacrificing that I would gladly take it off your hands should you decide it needed to find a new home. Yea, I'm giving like that. LOL!

Seriously though...it is beautiful...the color is very nice. I'm not even slightly versed in Neos so it's possible that it's more common than I was aware but I don't believe I have ever seen one w/that color. Very nice!

If the day should ever come, I will keep you in mind!

Yup, Koyo is an odd duck. Not rare by any means (pssst, Kristen has some by the name of "Kouyo") but often overlooked. Really unremarkable without the blooms.

I'm not involved in any of the Fukiran communities so I don't know where the issue stands today but my understanding is that most of the colored Nf's are hybrids, bred back into Nf's and so on. I'm not aware if some authority has decreed so or otherwise.

I have a couple of other hybrids (Anzumaru and a SE NoID...and a Yusui-which was bred but might still be species?) and they are proving hard to bloom in Amami light.

[naoki]

If you are ok with artificial hybrids, there are quite a few Neofinetia-look-a-like with intense color, Katrina. And Kouyou (meaning red sun) is a hybrid as Ree said. For the red flower, if it is deeper than pale pink (like Shutennou or Shoujou), it is likely to be a hybrid. There are some pure species with fairly deep red, but the color of Benitengu is probably the limit at this point. A link to Benitengu. Yellow ones are almost always hybrid. There are yellow flower pure Neo, but they are very pale.

Yuusui (幽翠) with green flowers should be pure species as far as I know.

[No-Pro-mwa]

Well all I can say, is that it's very pretty.

[NYCorchidman]

Did the strong color stay??

One of my pink neo opens up quite dark, but then in a few days, it will lighten up a bit.

That is pretty!

[AnonYMouse]

It stayed that purple.

[Fairorchids]

It is a gorgeous little thing. However, it is not a pure Neofinetia. It is a hybrid with something, which I have not been able to track down yet.