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Old 11-27-2013, 05:21 PM
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Dries, all things considered, if any of these plants looks like your particular plant, you have now the photographic representation of that plant, and the Kanji and some description of what makes up that particular plant.

As I said earlier, I hope this helps you!
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Old 11-27-2013, 05:32 PM
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thank you Matt ! When I look at the pictures, my plant resembles the koganenishiki the most. It has a little bit more delicate leaves to me than the rest and I think the overal plant size is on the lower medium size. (not like a mini bean leaf, but more like a tamakongou?) and the plant seems to put up green leaves first which very quickly turn an almost overal yellow variegation. exept for the midrib on the underside of the leave, this area stays greener. sides with less sun stay a little greener as well, but not as green as the kinyuukou u placed.

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Old 11-27-2013, 08:31 PM
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thank you Matt ! When I look at the pictures, my plant resembles the koganenishiki the most. It has a little bit more delicate leaves to me than the rest and I think the overal plant size is on the lower medium size. (not like a mini bean leaf, but more like a tamakongou?) and the plant seems to put up green leaves first which very quickly turn an almost overal yellow variegation. exept for the midrib on the underside of the leave, this area stays greener. sides with less sun stay a little greener as well, but not as green as the kinyuukou u placed.

greetz,
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Oh oh Dries, don't go to eBay! Seed Engei has a single growth Koganenishiki AND a Tamakongou up for bid. Starting bid is US$9.99. There is also a very healthy, three-fan Kinrokaku starting bid is US$18.00!!
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Old 03-21-2017, 03:55 PM
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I'm reviving this old thread as I came across late while searching for differences between Koganenishiki and Kinyuko.

I have all three, Kinrokaku and the two mentioned above.
Kinrokaku is very easy to distinguish in that the plant shows a lot of pigments under strong light, and even under not so strong light, the center, where all the leaves join, is heavily pigmented.
The root tip is ruby.

Koganenishiki and Kunyuko, I honestly wouldn't be able to tell them apart if I lost the tags. lol
Both are smaller than Kinrokaku, green plant with no purple pigments, green root tip.

I find the latter two much easier to grow than Kinrokaku.

The amount of yellow tone cannot be a guiding feature because they can vary widely from plant to plant, and vary depending on the culture.

Now, can anyone tell me what the differences are between Koganenishiki and Kinyuko?
I think they both have the same tsuke as well, further confusing me.

Matt- Kinrokaku being brown is due to too much light unless it was always that way, in which case, it is a stable feature I would say.
Mine are bright yellow.
How do you find the growing habit of your Kinrokaku in the last three years (or perhaps longer) under your care?
Mine might just be crappy plants or I might be doing something wrong, but I find them very slow to a point where it barely does anything other than root growth and flowering. I'm talking one leaf for the entire one year, while the other two just love to shoot up pubs.

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Old 03-22-2017, 01:35 AM
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Now, can anyone tell me what the differences are between Koganenishiki and Kinyuko?
I think they both have the same tsuke as well, further confusing me.
The two varieties are very similar. They have similar type of variegation, green stem, greenish-yellow root tips.

However, Kinyuko should perhaps have wider leaves and the yellow variegation should attain a deeper yellow when grown in high light.

Koganenishiki tends to have paler yellow variegation and the green overall tends to be paler than Kinyuko.

The biggest difference between the two though, is the parentage. Koganenishiki was a seedling mutation of Suminagashi while Kinyuko was found growing wild in Shizuoka.

Also, Kinyuko is registered. Koganenishiki is not.
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I swear I can't tell them apart. I can't even tell one Kinyuko from another. lol

Thank you very much for the information regarding their origin!

Much much to learn and know about these plants!
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