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FairyInTheFlowers 07-16-2011 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by help (Post 419879)
thats a good way of thinking about it

im thinking of selfing this one. does variegation breed true? anyone think i should try to self it??

From what I have heard, variegation is a mutation, so there is not much chances that it will carry on through breeding. What would be an interesting cross though, would be a Phal. violacea x Neo. falcata. If both plants are supposed to have heavenly fragrances, then I am sure that it should be carried out to the children. I have a violacea Sumatra with two buds developing, but it is far to young to carry two pods, and I already plan on using pollen from my cornu-cervi flava on the Sumatra. Maybe next year is someone is willing to donate pollen. GOODNESS! Why are these lines of such interesting intergeneric breeding more popular?!?!

Norris 07-16-2011 01:19 AM

I'm not sure about self pollination with these, It wont hurt to try now, and if a pod develops, you can research if it will be worth the trouble to propagate the seeds.

I did try to cross the two kinds I have blooming now. It will be interesting to see if they form pods.

Call_Me_Bob 07-16-2011 11:34 AM

im going to self it right now! see what i end up with.

cody- that would be an uinteresting cross. never heard a neo crossed with a phal though. technically they are both vandaceaous

FairyInTheFlowers 07-16-2011 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by help (Post 419964)
im going to self it right now! see what i end up with.

cody- that would be an uinteresting cross. never heard a neo crossed with a phal though. technically they are both vandaceaous

They could be crossed, but due to chromosome numbers, the progeny would most likely be sterile. I would love to do some far flung intergenerics within the subtribe Aeridinae (Phalaenopsis, Vandas, Arachnis, Neofinetia, Trichoglottis, and Aerides, to name a few out of the 108 genera within this subtribe).

Call_Me_Bob 07-16-2011 11:52 AM

a phalxtricho cross would be cool too.

FairyInTheFlowers 07-16-2011 12:15 PM

I am thinking of doing that when I get my Tricho to bloom once I get it. The question is, though, what Phal would I use?

Call_Me_Bob 07-16-2011 12:18 PM

thats a tough one! idk any of them would be cool

FairyInTheFlowers 07-16-2011 02:11 PM

I am hoping that my Phal. venosa blooms at the same time, as I think that would be neat, otherwise, I will need a pollen donor!

lambelkip 07-16-2011 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBlazingAugust (Post 419884)
From what I have heard, variegation is a mutation, so there is not much chances that it will carry on through breeding.

Variegation is typically caused by mutations in plastid DNA (more specifically, in the chloroplasts). this means that the mutation is passed on from the seed parent 100% of the time. Variegation in the pollen parent is not passed on.
Other types of mutations, which affect nuclear DNA, have a 50-50 chance of being passed on from either parent.

Call_Me_Bob 07-16-2011 02:31 PM

cool!

i selfed it today so we will see if it even takes


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