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Old 05-07-2022, 05:47 AM
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I bring this one into the house every night and put it on a coffee table so it can spread that wonderful scent throughout our great room.

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The neofinetia below is the bean leaf variety Wonhyo, ( n Japan - Gangyō. Wonhyo is a really wonderful Korean creation. It's incredibly vigorous, likes to branch, starts a lot of new roots, and flowers freely. It is even more vigorous than two other strong fast growing and better known bean leaf varieties I also grow Yodo no Matsu and Tamakongō.

The leaves seem very resistant to spotting and it doesn't drop its bottom leaves until it gets very tall. It's always a nice dark green, slightly glossy, and it looks very healthy. In my opinion, it is a perfect beginners neofinetia. It isn't terribly common, but Orchids limited often has it for sale.

The flower presentation reminds me of fireworks, but more so in person.

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Second plant is very nice but is not Shutennou. What is it?
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Second plant is very nice but is not Shutennou. What is it?
Oops. Thanks for the heads up.
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I purchased Wonhyo impulsively based on the description. At the time I only collected Japanese neos and was disappointed when I discovered it was Korean. There are just so many good Japanese mameba beaners out there, so why go to a second place source. I've since discovered that there are some very impressive Korean neos and I've became a fan.

Taiga, which is available from Diamond Orchids, is another that I really like. As best as I can tell with limited information sources, it is very similar to Hokage. I wish I could find out more about it.This picture shows an exceptionally well-grown Hokage (I think). I wish I could read the languages.


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A really pretty looking plant even without blooms.
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Taiga, which is available from Diamond Orchids, is another that I really like. As best as I can tell with limited information sources, it is very similar to [I]Hokage.
Taiga is a sibling to Hokage. Both are Korean varieties. The difference is strictly size and leaf posture.




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At the time I only collected Japanese neos and was disappointed when I discovered it was Korean. There are just so many good Japanese mameba beaners out there. So why go to a second place source. I've since discovered that there are some very impressive Korean neos and I've became a fan.
I've long noticed that there is that idea among some western growers that there's something intrinsically different between "Korean" vs "Japanese" Neos, and that Japanese ones are somehow inherently better.

In reality, there is no difference between them other than the nationality of the originating breeder/nursery/discoverer.

All "Korean" neo cultivars, registered or not, are descended from plants collected in Japan.

This is because in early propagation trials, Korean native populations of Neos were found to be more finicky and mostly unsuited for creating new varieties. As a result, Korean breeders and nurseries settled on using Japanese plants, favoring those that come from the Amami Islands. Since then, Korean breeders and nurseries have created countless new varieties, many of which having comparable reputation to any of the most storied of Japanese varieties.

Perhaps as evidence of all of this, the varieties have intermingled to the extent that there are many many popular varieties that some growers just assume are Japanese, but are in reality, originally discovered by Korean nurseries.

Some of these include:

Hokage
Manjushage
Ryokusaiho
Momoyamanishiki
Daishogun
Raikomaru
Mangekyo
Himeseikai
Jukai
Kokyu
etc. etc. etc.

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Some of those listed are my favorites, pictured above. The same number were garbaged whose names I will not mention here. Perhaps problems with my culture and/or just could not relate to them.

Clockwise from top left, Neof. Manjushage, Neof. Mangekyo, and Neof. Raikoumaru.
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Interesting about the differences between populations. Do the Korean populations have different cold tolerance?
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Do the Korean populations have different cold tolerance?
Maybe a bit more but probably not much more than the majority of the wild population in Japan

On the main Korean peninsula, Neos are only native to the very southernmost coastline, well within the latitudes that they grow wild in Japan. And even there, they're only found close to sea level.

There are only a handful of people who have native Korean neos though, so there's not much info about the specifics of growing them.

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