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Old 01-19-2021, 01:11 PM
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Here's mine. Note, what appears to be anthocyanin at the base is not. Plant is definitely Aojiku since it has pure green root tips when they are growing.
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Paraphrasing what it says here:

"During seed propagation of an unvariegated wild collected plant from Hiroshima, [many] Fugaku appeared. Of those, a small number of them had green stem and green roots and were called Aojiku-Fugaku. Nowadays, many seedlings of these original Aojiku-Fugaku are in circulation..."

Basically, Fugaku and Aojiku-Fugaku were originally discovered together as a group of siblings.

However, since both Fugaku and Aojiku-Fugaku transmit their variegation to their offspring when selfed, most of the Fugaku and Aojiku-Fugaku currently on the market are seed grown from this original group.

However, by seed propagating normal Fugaku, there is always the chance that some of those seedlings could mutate and be unable to produce anthocyanins, and it would be acceptable to call those Aojiku-Fugaku as well.
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From what you are saying in the first paragraph, it seems as if both of these Fugaku varieties are mutations.

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From what you are saying in the first paragraph, it seems as if both of these Fugaku varieties are mutations.
Well, all cultivated varieties of pure neos are mutations, regardless of whether they were found growing wild or discovered during human cultivation. I thought your question was whether Aojiku-Fugaku specifically mutated from Fugaku.
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Yes, my question was whether Aojiku Fugaku mutated from Fugaku. However, as you state, initially they mutated from a common unvarigated source.

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OK, I understand. That being so, perhaps the word mutation should not be assigned ever since it always is the case.
The word can be used in the sense of "X is a mutation of Y" to state how one variety is related to another variety.

It just doesn't make much sense to say by itself, "X is a mutation."
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