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Old 08-03-2019, 11:00 AM
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I'm wondering if anyone can share some more information about the Snow White Sisters?

Here's what I've learned from Satomi. "The 5 Snow White Sisters were discovered from Amami seedling and propagated by division. They produce beautiful snow white stripe on large and wide foliage. When temperature drops, they produce beautiful scarlet variegation over white stripes. These neo likes direct sunlight. Have ruby root tips, large fragrant flowers on pink spikes."

I know of:
Momoyama Nishiki,
Kousetsu, and
Hakko Nishiki

Does anyone know what the others are?

Seems some of them have very little striping or no striping at all, from pictures identifying them. Do some develop striping later?

I'm also hoping someone can share their experience with growing these? Or pictures (speak 1000 words)
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Old 08-03-2019, 11:22 AM
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Thanks for your post.

This is the first time I’ve heard of the term, “Snow White Sisters”

I have a Hakkou Nishiki, it is quite small, about three inches across and have had it for about 2 years.

I've been waiting until it gets larger to post pictures of it.

I have found that the white turns to scarlet only when the growth is growing and exposed to good sunlight, old growths which were not so exposed when new remain white even when exposed to good sunlight. I was not aware of temperature connection wrt scarlet development but it’s possible.

Individuals showing little to no striping (white or scarlet) at all might be misidentified. You can't believe everything you see on the internet.

I hope your post results in greater discussion of this highly desirable group. It deserves it.

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Old 08-05-2019, 10:29 AM
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Because of interest shown at this time, I have decided to post a picture of my Neof. Hakkou Nishiki now instead of waiting until it grows larger.
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Old 08-05-2019, 10:36 AM
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Thanks, I was hoping pictures would be put up. That's really lovely.
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Old 11-02-2019, 12:11 PM
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If enough interest shown, I will continue to add photos to this post as plant progresses.
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Old 11-02-2019, 01:31 PM
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That's really nice, it's really coming along well. I really like the rich deep pink/red coloring. That is what seems to make them unique from others.

I did find mention of another one of them on the internet.

SETSUGAKU 雪嶽 is a seedling of Momoyama-nishiki and identified as one of the snow white sisters.
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SETSUGAKU 雪嶽 is a seedling of Momoyama-nishiki and identified as one of the snow white sisters.
As explained here on the Korean association profile of the variety, Setsugaku shares the same parent as Momoyama-Nishiki, rather than it being a seedling of the latter.

Both were discovered by the same South Korean nursery on Cheju Island within 3-4 years of each other in the mid to late 90s
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Old 11-03-2019, 10:12 AM
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Thank you Hakumin for the clarification and information, as well as the link to a specimen pictures. It's Awesome.

Guess I shouldn't rely so much on what the internet says.

I very much trust your information and knowledge on Neos. Is it true these are from division only?

Can't say I've ever seen Kousetsu. but have heard it's rather rare. You don't know of a picture of Kousetsu, by any chance do you?
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Is it true these are from division only?
Setsugaku, I have only heard of propagation by division. While theoretically it could be seed propagable, it's perhaps still a bit too soon for any seed grown ones to have really hit the market even if they existed.

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Can't say I've ever seen Kousetsu. but have heard it's rather rare. You don't know of a picture of Kousetsu, by any chance do you?
Kousetsu, Seed Engei had sold good numbers of before. I haven't seen very many for sale lately but I wouldn't really say they're rare.

That said, Kousetsu, Hakkonishiki and Momoyama nishiki are all actually considered the same variety in Korea, and are all registered under the the umbrella name, Baekrok 白鹿. In Korea, when they were originally discovered, many of the siblings were exported to Japan long before maturity and individuals with slightly different physical characteristics were named differently. However, as these individuals matured, they all began to converge on the same general physical characteristics when grown in the same conditions, so in Korea, they were registered in 2013 as the same name: Baekrok

Here are a couple plants directly labeled as Kousetsu on various Japanese websites:

https://item.rakuten.co.jp/ps-hamana...1olSMyZgswFpA8

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Old 11-03-2019, 09:16 PM
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Hakumin, Thank you so much for your information

Guess there is no need to wonder about the Snow White Sisters, any more. And I must say, Baekrok and or Kousetsu, Hakko Nishiki and Momoyama Nishiki are quite impressive looking.

I suspect I'll be watching out for one....
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