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Old 05-16-2010, 08:46 AM
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This should be quite readily available in Malaysia, maybe you can get one of it. If I'm not wrong, Mr. Robert Ang have some sib crosses of very very RED cornu-cervis
where can i find him if you don't mind? i live in jb, quite near to you... i believe you might be familiar with orchid nurseries here?
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Old 05-16-2010, 10:02 AM
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where can i find him if you don't mind? i live in jb, quite near to you... i believe you might be familiar with orchid nurseries here?
Oh cool, I have quite a number of relatives in Johor Bahru. If you can come down to Singapore, I'll be able to get you one of this.

Robert Ang is located in Ipoh, you can check out his blog: Eucharist Orchids
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Old 05-16-2010, 12:09 PM
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Here's my Phal. cornu cervi "Red"

Pardon my ignorance but until now, I still don't know what's the difference between a "Red" and a var. chattaladae

Any kind soul care to explain to me

First time in bud.


Bloom taken at night


Bloom taken in the day.
wind08, thanks for the opportunity to dig out all my books. I'm not a taxonomist nor am I a phal enthusiast, however after reading Sweet, Christensen and Grove's article (also available on the chattaladae.com web page you cited) it looks like your 'Red' is a clonal name on a flower that appears to be a Phal cornu-cervi forma chattaladae *providing* your 'Red' is a solid color on *both* the front *and* the back of the petals and sepals with no eveidence of spotting or barring and only a very slight chartreuse picotee at the tips. Which your photo (showing the front side only) would apparently support. It would be necessary to have a photo of the reverse to be absolutely sure. The key characteristic being the solid coloration on both side of the petals and sepals, no evidence of spots or bars.

'Red' is a clonal name identifying your plant from all the other f. chattaladae plants. It could be a unique seedling, or it could be a mericlone of the vendor's 'Red' individual. You'd have to go back to the vendor and find out what he sold you. I take you at your word, however, that he sold you a unique seedling not a mericlone. Like you, I don't usually buy mericlones either.

The Grove article in the August 'Orchids' magazine is quite informative, especially in removing the P. thalebanii name and clarifying var. sanguineum. Again thanks for the lesson.
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Old 05-16-2010, 08:29 PM
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Also one would think that since ther were only two individuals found "in the wild" so to speak, that someone could do a DNA analysis to verify lineage.
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Old 05-16-2010, 09:24 PM
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I think it is the var. f. chattaladae since there is no pattern visble as with f. sanguinea has.

Ramon
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I think it is the var. f. chattaladae since there is no pattern visble as with f. sanguinea has.

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Thanks Ramon

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Old 05-17-2010, 01:27 AM
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Thanks for all the clarifications!! Here are some more pictures of the new bloom





The back view

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Superb!!
I wish..........
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[QUOTE=wind08;312652]Here's my Phal. cornu cervi "Red"

Pardon my ignorance but until now, I still don't know what's the difference between a "Red" and a var. chattaladae

Any kind soul care to explain to me

Hi CK, I found this link on Bigleaf's forum.
chattaladae.com: Phalaenopsis cornu-cervi fma. chattaladae

Bill
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Old 05-17-2010, 11:39 AM
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Hi Bill,

I'm a little confused myself, but I think that what Mormodes is explaining above is that 'Red' is a clone name of a particular plant within var. chattaladae.

I could have got that confused though
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