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Old 09-20-2013, 10:57 AM
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Wow, this is an old thread from the early days of the board. Not sure that ever got written and the people from this thread don't come here often anymore.

However Ray has great info on S/H, maybe it was felt that he had covered everything so no need to do it again

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lol well ok. His site does have a lot of good info
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...and I could sue for copyright enfringement, anyway.
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...and I could sue for copyright enfringement, anyway.
Not sure about other jurisdictions, but in the US copyright doesn't protect facts or ideas. INS v AP is one of the more famous cases articulating this principle, known as the Idea/Expression Dichotomy. Which isn't to say you can't sue, of course...
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I have to thank Ray for this. I honestly think that if I don't use this method to make money but to teach others how to grow orchids well and acknowledge Ray as the inventor of this method, I am not guilty of any copyright infringements.
I read Ray's article when I was still a member of that other forum. I followed the principles but not necessarily its dynamics. I got a warning message from Ray about growing Vandacious orchids on S/H, but I did it anyways and was successful on some but not my Vanda Pachara Delight who likes to grow roots outside of the pot and since it is fast in growing large thick roots; I had to just hang it free and bare root (see my latest thread post on this)

This is a step by step illustration by pictures of my S/H method of growing some of my orchids particularly Mokaras, Vandas and Oncidiums. These are high humidity, bright light and water loving plants....
I chose heavy glass instead of light plastic because I have tall heavy plants and I don't want it to easily topple down. I can easily monitor the roots and it lets me know if the algae has grown rampant on the clay pellets. Yes, algae will form in high humidity warm environment and even if it is not a danger to the plant; it is messy, ugly and smells bad. I flush it under the sink in full throttle water pressure for 5 minutes twice a month and if I need to repot to a larger size I make sure I wash the clay and microwave it to kill anything that is still clinging to the clay. I also find it strange that S/H method can harbor worms (yes the ones you use for bait=large big ones that I don't know where they came from).

I will start with how I drill holes on the glass vase.


this diamond tip drill bit costs $12 at Home Depot


I don't know how much these items are I just inherited it.


I used the rubber to tighten the drill bit


there is a concave part at the bottom of the vase that can hold a bit of water just enough not to heat the drill from friction


this is how the holes look like when washed clean




make sure to clean the roots of any debris and bits of moss or media


make sure the clay pellets have no empty spaces=shake it a bit loosely to make it more compact


place it in a saucer of water making sure at least 1/4 water is inside the glass pot


the day after outdoors


10 days after = the plant is acclimatized to the environment and the S/H method


Mokara Chark Kuan Boy 'blue'


this is a large tall plant so I gave it a large heavy lead glass vase my grandma gave me that I found from her garage of junks




happily growing on the heavy lead crystal pot over a pot


Mokara Chark Kuan 'gold'


after 2 years have bloomed 4 times already and still happy on S/H


Oncidium in a glass jar....I have to recycle and use whatever is available to me


*most of my materials are found in my apartment or I begged someone for it. I spent money only for the Leca and drill bit, even my other tools were handed down to me or I found it lying on my grandmother's garage= so I cannot exactly tell anyone my budget cost for these projects.

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I have to thank Ray for this. I honestly think that if I don't use this method to make money but to teach others how to grow orchids well and acknowledge Ray as the inventor of this method, I am not guilty of any copyright infringements.
I read Ray's article when I was still a member of that other forum. I followed the principles but not necessarily its dynamics. I got a warning message from Ray about growing Vandacious orchids on S/H, but I did it anyways and was successful on some but not my Vanda Pachara Delight who likes to grow roots outside of the pot and since it is fast in growing large thick roots; I had to just hang it free and bare root (see my latest thread post on this)

This is a step by step illustration by pictures of my S/H method of growing some of my orchids particularly Mokaras, Vandas and Oncidiums. These are high humidity, bright light and water loving plants....
I chose heavy glass instead of light plastic because I have tall heavy plants and I don't want it to easily topple down. I can easily monitor the roots and it lets me know if the algae has grown rampant on the clay pellets. Yes, algae will form in high humidity warm environment and even if it is not a danger to the plant; it is messy, ugly and smells bad. I flush it under the sink in full throttle water pressure for 5 minutes twice a month and if I need to repot to a larger size I make sure I wash the clay and microwave it to kill anything that is still clinging to the clay. I also find it strange that S/H method can harbor worms (yes the ones you use for bait=large big ones that I don't know where they came from).

I will start with how I drill holes on the glass vase.


this diamond tip drill bit costs $12 at Home Depot


I don't know how much these items are I just inherited it.


I used the rubber to tighten the drill bit


there is a concave part at the bottom of the vase that can hold a bit of water just enough not to heat the drill from friction


this is how the holes look like when washed clean




make sure to clean the roots of any debris and bits of moss or media


make sure the clay pellets have no empty spaces=shake it a bit loosely to make it more compact


place it in a saucer of water making sure at least 1/4 water is inside the glass pot


the day after outdoors


10 days after = the plant is acclimatized to the environment and the S/H method


Mokara Chark Kuan Boy 'blue'


this is a large tall plant so I gave it a large heavy lead glass vase my grandma gave me that I found from her garage of junks




happily growing on the heavy lead crystal pot over a pot


Mokara Chark Kuan 'gold'


after 2 years have bloomed 4 times already and still happy on S/H


Oncidium in a glass jar....I have to recycle and use whatever is available to me


*most of my materials are found in my apartment or I begged someone for it. I spent money only for the Leca and drill bit, even my other tools were handed down to me or I found it lying on my grandmother's garage= so I cannot exactly tell anyone my budget cost for these projects.
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That is one lucky orchid to be in a Waterford vase.
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Someone gave me that Waterford Crystal comment when I first posted my Boy Blue....and frankly I was not aware of the value of the vase when I begged my grandmother for it=it was a glass vase heavy enough to support my plants; small wonder she didn't want to part with it.... I also didn't tell my grandmother that I also drilled on the two 'Lalique' crystal vase she gave me....I could of kicked myself for drilling a hole on those vases when I learned how much a big vase like those costs. I am ignorant of oppulence.

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Someone gave me that Waterford Crystal comment when I first posted my Boy Blue....and frankly I was not aware of the value of the vase when I begged my grandmother for it=it was a glass vase heavy enough to support my plants; small wonder she didn't want to part with it.... I also didn't tell my grandmother that I also drilled on the two 'Lalique' crystal vase she gave me....I could of kicked myself for drilling a hole on those vases when I learned how much a big vase like those costs. I am ignorant of oppulence.
I could see why you wouldn't tell her. If the Waterford is a ten inch vase it retails around five hundred dollars. Lalique...oh to dream. With three kids to raise and educate it won't happen. Enjoy your beautiful orchids in their gorgeous vessels. By the way, Homegoods carries heavy vases and vessels.
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Please don't rub it in. I could of bought a dozen rare Vandas and a couple of rare Neos if I sold the three vases on Ebay (even my grandma doesn't know about its value=it was also given to her by friends)....I was really ignorant til now.
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