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Old 02-04-2014, 11:51 AM
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I sometimes wondering if advertising its existence opens the door to its extinction? What do you think, Director?

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Old 02-04-2014, 06:47 PM
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With just estimated 100 of these plants I have thought about that a lot, good thing is no GPS are mentioned. One major problem in China is enforcing laws, its common practice to turn a blind eye. It is legal to remove wild orchids and deal in them in China so long as you donít try to send them or transfer them out of the country (China being a CITES member makes that a real head scratcher). After half of my life bush beating, I do have GPs coordinates to some of the rarest orchids in the word but I keep them within my personal notes.
I have been fighting all of the illegal dealers on EBay, those willing to send orchids from one country to another. And put itís the buyers responsibility to get proper paper work for import or I will make it as a silk scarf, or toy, shirt, to get it passed inspection and CITES required paper work. I have contacted EBay a dozen times over the last six years, and have yet to receive one reply from them. I work with CITES a lot about things like this and the CITES wiki manual posting info and pictures so CITES and inspection personal have some kind of information to help them.
Education and strict punishment for poachers and illegal dealers is what I would like to see more of.
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Old 02-05-2014, 04:29 AM
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New ones are found all the time.
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Old 02-05-2014, 04:16 PM
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I agree with you but in smaller quantity now, I have seen in my life time going from covered hill sides to just small random patches mostly due to human destruction.
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Old 02-05-2014, 06:35 PM
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I wrote what I thought was a good response last night but unfortunately Orchid Boards and my android tablet are a mis-match, so here I am at my brother's old PC tower. I just said something to the effect of: as long as there is profitability in the destruction of something, it is usually swept under the rug. The Press is your best weapon to create the fundimental outrage. I don't know how that goes in China, Mr. Director. Especially when and if it is rare and found only in some country. It has got to be labled a national treasure, and all interlopers need to be given public punishments, whether harsh or mild. I am then thinking about that Meryl Streep movie "Adaptation" in which the bad guy who tears out rare orchids (Ghost orchids) in the Fakahatchee Strand preserve by hiring a few Indian (Native American) kids to do his dirty work, thus circumventing poaching laws. So, will it ever end?

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Old 02-05-2014, 11:56 PM
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Well first just call me Ken, I have never get used to being called mister. I tell my students just call me Ken some choose to call me professor but I do prefer Ken.

Now profiteers are alive and well, but some of us make their life hell. I have been known to give poachers a good knock upside the head. I would like to die knowing that my grandchildren grow up and see orchids and wildlife as I have been so fortunate to be able to see.

As for China there are many profiteers, yesterday I spent half a day sneaking photos of illegally obtained and kept sea turtles at the pet market. They wonít let you take photos of the sea turtles because they know that this is evidence against them. And they will fight you if you try to take photos of the turtles, the last place I stopped the pet shop owner and me about came to blows because I took a photo of his sea turtle.

I sent the photos to a guy who writes articles about the poachers and illicit dealers, in the south of China and Hong Kong. His work has taken down some 271 individuals, and I would dare say that his life is in danger because of it.

I have been fighting the illegal orchid trade in China I started in 2006, many people know about me and many dealers would like to see me have an accident. One woman confessed while I was filming her and my wife was translating, she was fined and jailed for two years. I gave the Director of the United Nations ESCAP a copy of a video showing some orchid poachers filming them selfís looking for orchids found them dug them up placed them in pots and was talking about how much they wanted for them and posted it on the internet for sale thatís how uncontrolled and blind the system is in China.
Many people I have known over the years have received death threats and some killed.

But you canít win without trying, the illegal orchid triangle will go down and hard if we keep on fighting them and make public their activityís.
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keep up the good work !

....here is an example of resources being managed but maybe publicising the orchid names sets the wrong example for wannabe copycat producers.

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Yunnan China is with no question or doubt the gateway to orchids in mainland China. I know the TianZi Biodiversity Nature Reserve very well. I work with some northern Yunnan orchid farms in helping them improve their farms. I also show them how not to be dependent on wiled orchids to stock their nurseries. Yunnan is a fantastic place to view orchids in their natural surroundings and a person could spend a life time there studding them.

And about the copycat thing; you are 100 percent right, if one Chinese is making money another will set up shop right next door and mimic everything and try to take the business away.
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Remember an estimated staggering 86% of species of all life on Earth remain unknown to our science!

86 Percent of Earth's Species Still Unknown?
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Old 02-07-2014, 07:27 PM
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Yes I can believe that,

Funding is a major hold back; for just one five day expedition with six people can run 5,000 RMB thatís about $833 dollars and itís just an eight hour train ride, and cheapest way we can go and stay.
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