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Old 07-02-2007, 11:12 PM
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List of orchid seed capsule ripening times?
The site that I usually consult has been pulled for inclusion in a book. I have found the list from "Lucke, 1971" listing 14 genera. Do you know of a more complete list with genera or even species seed capsule ripening times?
Another way to accomplish this is to compile our own list from what we can report about our own efforts.

I'm specifically searching for ripening times for Mc (Schomb.) tibicinis x self.
Also for Broughtonia sanguinea pod parent crossed with a Cattleya. (If I recall Broughtonia matures very quickly.)
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Old 07-03-2007, 12:14 AM
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I,ve always heard it is ripe when the stem starts to turn yellow.
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Old 07-03-2007, 10:48 AM
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If you see the stem starts to turn light yellow, the capsule will burst the same or next days. So, it's the best time to cut it. If you want to wait for a few day you're better to cover it; otherwise, the seed will fall all over place.
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Old 07-03-2007, 11:47 PM
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Try here:

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or use this to look at the original page

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Old 07-04-2007, 12:25 AM
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Thanks Kyle! Exactly what I was searching for!
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:16 AM
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Here a link.
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Old 09-20-2007, 05:24 PM
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Hey guys. I got a little confused with that listing... I have a undetermined species of the phalaenopsis genus which I fertilized on 24th June. On that listing, the mean 'greenpod time' is 200days, ~6mo. Is it right? I'm not sure, because I've seen on some sources 6mo being the time it takes to split... should i cut it out when it reaches 4mo (2/3 of 6) or wait until 6mo?

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Old 09-22-2007, 08:18 PM
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I'm curious.
I am wanting to try this myself. I hope you find your answers. I'll be waiting to learn too.
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Old 09-22-2007, 10:38 PM
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Just returning to this post to take another turn and wondering about some posts.
- badlydrawnboy, Did you post a link?
- FP, "Fertilized" normally is used to refer to feeding the orchids. I can see you mean pollenated the bloom. I'm not an expert but if I wanted to pick a green capsule to sow into flasks, 4 months is enough time for any Phal hybrid or specie to develop viable seed embryos in the capsule. You've got time to give it a little longer but would want to cut it at the first signs of yellow and rush it into the flasks.


If anyone didn't get to the Seed Pod Ripening Times or ORCHID SEED CAPSULE AGE DATA TABLE
here is the link that I again thank Kyle for posting:
SPECIES

It is rather simple to pollenate an orchid bloom. All it takes is a toothpick or other narrow utensil.

If you've done that and it worked, the area from the back of the bloom, the small stem, that connects the bloom to the inflorescence will begin to swell up within a few days. Later you can sow the seed from a green (immature) capsule or from dry seed from a capsule that yellows, then splits open as in nature.

If we want to do dry seed, the time it takes to ripen is not so important so long as we lay eyes on our plants on an almost daily basis. When the green turns to yellow and/or brown the capsule is about to open. Prepare to catch the ?million(s) seeds. Most of us will not want to sow more than a couple thousand of these.

However we want to catch a green capsule before it opens. The main reason we do that is mostly because the green capsule has sterile seed or better described as embryos inside. If we cut it off and take it to the sterile lab or other sterile set up, we hope to transfer the embryos to the sterile flasks. Virtually all of the capsule's contents could be sown into the flasks. There is much less chance of contaminating the seed. One of the best guides to this process is found in the "Orchid Seed Germination Manual" by Hicks. Probably the best $20 I have ever spent on orchids.

That is what is so valuable about the list. It is the most extensive list I've ever seen. We now know how long it takes for the capsule to develop embryos that will survive that transfer to the flask.

Some people leave the flasking to a lab which can do this more reliably and for much less than our time is generally worth.

I do wonder about some of the entries on the list that indicate less time to get dry seed than to harvest a green capsule. (Hnnhh?)

Some people think we should leave the hybridizing to the big orchid producers. Some of the most celebrated orchids were done by hobbyists in search of some result. Others created by the big breeders were accidental successes.

~enjoy!
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Old 09-22-2007, 11:33 PM
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I agree. Someone mentioned to me today that waiting six years to see your results is too long. To that I say poop! If you are one of the lucky ones with six years left to live, what better way of spending them than to have crossed two hybrids and made a new one. Name it after your wife and be forever known as an orchid lover who took the time to fully enjoy the study. Or at least try.

What the heck.
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