Mixing your own keiki paste / spray

[Lint]

Hello,

has anyone tried this? Mixing your own keiki paste or liquid for spraying? I am asking because these products are not easily (or affordably) available here in Germany, but the base ingredients are.

I read a thread on a UK forum where someone mixed 1 drop of 1mg/ml BA/BAP (1000ppm) solution with a teaspoon of anti-wrinkle cream (keiki paste usually uses lanolin, but I guess it's not that important; you just need some kind of carrier substance) and applied it to several spikes and it seemed to have the desired effect.

I'm hoping that through some community effort we can find out a working "recipe" so that everybody can experiment with growing keikis or reactivating dormant backbulbs.

So any suggestions as to which hormones to use (and what concentration) are very welcome!

The creators of KeikiGrow and KeikiRoot say that you shouldn't mix Cytokinins and Auxins as it can damage your plant, but apparently some other product(s) do just that.

And I think I remember reading somewhere that Keiki Pro uses only BA (cytokinin).

Anyway, I hope some of you can give me some advice as I am eager to experiment! *gets labcoat*

[King_of_orchid_growing:)]

There apparently is a cytokinin that can be used with auxins, but there must be a certain ratio for certain results.

Kinetin.

[Orchid-gurl]

Ok 1 miligram of BAP and i can use 1 gram of lanolin. MILIGRAM 1/10 gram is that correct. ? so if i use 10 grams of lanolin only 1 gram of BAP .

[Ray]

No. 1 gram in 10, results in 100,000 ppm. (Actually it's 1 in 11 total, or about 91,000 ppm)

[Orchid-gurl]

Thank you Ray.. So its 1 gram bap to 1 kg of lanolin .. geez seems a lot of keiki paste. I have some Bap left over from a friend that was using it on her trees. .. I do not know what to do with 1 kg of keiki paste.. can i use it on anything else but the Nodes. If i do more BAP will it burn my orchids. Im not a lab so I will Eyeball it lol.

Originally Posted by Ray

No. 1 gram in 10, results in 100,000 ppm. (Actually it's 1 in 11 total, or about 91,000 ppm)

[Ray]

Personally, I would not attempt to mix something like that "by eye", an you're right, a kilo of paste is a lot to deal with.

Don't such chemicals degrade over time? I know the original Keiki-Paste made in Canada had a definite, and relatively short life span.

[Orchid-gurl]

Ray ur the expert. And thank you on reply's . im just better off ordering a small amount. A friend of mine was plantsitting cl years ago for me. she applyed keiki pro to one of mine phals. and i thought i smelled vaseline .. dose lanolin smell like veselin or is it in my head that they put veseline instead of lanolin. since i dont know the smell of lanolin i cant be sure. I read vaseline can be damaging to the tissues. eventually i did get a keiki but mother plant sufferd.

Originally Posted by Ray

Personally, I would not attempt to mix something like that "by eye", an you're right, a kilo of paste is a lot to deal with.

Don't such chemicals degrade over time? I know the original Keiki-Paste made in Canada had a definite, and relatively short life span.

[Orchid Whisperer]

Keikigrow plus (lanolin-based paste) has a guaranteed lifespan of 1 year, but Jim Brasch (of Plant Hormones Canada, the manufacturer) reports successful use of paste that is 8 years old KeikiGrow Plus.

I bought some paste roughly 3 years ago, and within the last month have used it to stimulate node growth on Phalaenopsis and Tolumnia, as well as "eye" growth on Cattleyas.

[Ray]

Good to know. Thanks, OW.