A million and 1 types of agar... what kind do i want?
Login
User Name
Password   


Registration is FREE. Click to become a member of OrchidBoard community
(You're NOT logged in)

menu menu

Sponsor
Donate Now
and become
Forum Supporter.

A million and 1 types of agar... what kind do i want?
Many perks!
<...more...>


Sponsor
 

Google


Fauna Top Sites
Register A million and 1 types of agar... what kind do i want? Members A million and 1 types of agar... what kind do i want? A million and 1 types of agar... what kind do i want? Today's PostsA million and 1 types of agar... what kind do i want? A million and 1 types of agar... what kind do i want? A million and 1 types of agar... what kind do i want?
LOG IN/REGISTER TO CLOSE THIS ADVERTISEMENT
Go Back   Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web ! > >
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #11  
Old 12-02-2008, 09:41 AM
mnoor mnoor is offline
Member
 

Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 53
Default

Thank you so much RoyalOrchids and Andrew. Now I have a better picture and abt the non-presence of agar.

May I ask further, are all the products listed as linked can be directly used (of course as per manufacturter's instructions) to raise the seeds in the flask until they're de-flasked. The presence of agar in this case, is optional by me, right?

Last edited by mnoor; 12-02-2008 at 09:44 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-02-2008, 09:44 AM
Royal Royal is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jan 2008
Zone: 8a
Location: Piney Woods of East Texas
Age: 46
Posts: 3,253
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew View Post
Unless you're planning on using sufficient sowing and replating media to warrant buying them separately a maintenance medium such as 6668 should be fine. Sowing media are usually just maintenance media prepared at lower strength and supplemented with fruit extracts (eg banana, coconut water etc). As orchids can respond to different supplements and these supplements can be inhibitory to the growth the germinated seedlings, it's often easier to buy the basic maintenance media and add your own extracts. This way you can experiment with different supplements and determine which works best for the genera you're working with.
Agreed. But media from the OSP is really cheap, so you may as well buy a few different types if you're placing an order. If you're ordering from Phytotech than shipping is outrageous so you might as well get all you need in the same box.

My point is just that a liter's worth of media is about 5 or 6 bucks. To buy liter-packs of 2 different kinds won't cost you more than buying two of the same type and then adjust one yourself.

You could even make your own, but just starting out you're better off with a prepared media formula with known concentrations. Once you have a little experience to work with, then try making modifications and doing experiments.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-02-2008, 09:50 AM
Royal Royal is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jan 2008
Zone: 8a
Location: Piney Woods of East Texas
Age: 46
Posts: 3,253
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mnoor View Post
Thank you so much RoyalOrchids and Andrew. At least I got a better picture now, especially abt the non-presence of agar.

May I ask further, are all the products listed as linked can be used to raise the seeds in the flask until they're de-flasked. The presence of agar in this case, is optional by me, right?
You will need a gelling agent. My previous post was just to clarify that agar only serves to solidify the media. The the media itself is much more important. Sorry to confuse things.

Agar is cheap, natural, and readily available. I just make sure that I buy media with the agar included. You can buy it separate (which allows you to make the media softer if you wish).
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 12-02-2008, 10:09 AM
camille1585's Avatar
camille1585 camille1585 is offline
Administrator
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: middle of the Netherlands
Posts: 13,703
Default

While you are on the subject of medias I have some questions too. I have permission from one of my university's chair groups to use their lab and growing chambers to flask orchid seed. . I can use their ready made medium but I'm not sure it would work for orchid seeds. They use it to grow veggie plants from meristems. Otherwise does anyone know of a good recipe (or a website with one) for a medium? I have access to a closetfull of of ingredients, so can pretty much do what I like. Now all I need is seeds...

Maybe I should have created a new thread, I'm sort of hijacking this one...
__________________
Camille

Completely orchid obsessed and loving every minute of it....

My Orchid Photos

Last edited by camille1585; 12-02-2008 at 10:12 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 12-02-2008, 10:30 AM
Royal Royal is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jan 2008
Zone: 8a
Location: Piney Woods of East Texas
Age: 46
Posts: 3,253
Default

Phytotech Labs has the formula of most of the media they sell. From the product description, click on the 'technical info' tab and the whole recipe should pop up (unless it's proprietary). The formula for MS should be pretty widely available too. Try googling it.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 12-03-2008, 07:09 AM
mnoor mnoor is offline
Member
 

Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 53
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RoyalOrchids View Post
You will need a gelling agent. My previous post was just to clarify that agar only serves to solidify the media. The the media itself is much more important. Sorry to confuse things.

Agar is cheap, natural, and readily available. I just make sure that I buy media with the agar included. You can buy it separate (which allows you to make the media softer if you wish).
Thanks alot RoyalOrchids... I understand better now after your explanation.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
agar, extract, growth, nematode, soil, million, types


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:06 AM.

© 2007 OrchidBoard.com
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.37 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Clubs vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.