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JC Espinosa 08-17-2013 02:38 PM

Experience with Oeceoclades calcarata, Eulophias in South Florida or similar zone?
 
I am interested in expanding my collection by adding a few more African orchids. Does anyone have experience growing the following species?

Oeceoclades calcarata
Eulophia petersii
Eulophia speciosa
Eulophia taitensus

JC in Miami

King_of_orchid_growing:) 08-17-2013 03:04 PM

Oeceoclades calcarata is a lithophyte and grows very much like a succulent. Do not use potting soil, though, it is an inappropriate mix. Aussie Gold is the easiest mix to use for these. It comes premixed with coconut coir. If you'd rather mix it yourself, diatomite, and coconut coir, with charcoal is the mix. They are water hogs. Very large plants, these guys are. Mine is about half my body size, this is not including flower spikes. These are extremely rare in the trade.

Honestly, I don't know how you're gonna get Eulophia speciosa. These things are not in the US market. The seeds you see on Ebay are not enough seeds in one packet to make 1 flask worth of seedlings, you'd need several of them, and there's no guarantee anyone here in the US can successfully sow them from seed. You can try. You might luck out. The seeds might not be fresh, though. Like I said, try it out and see. But from what I've read in many accounts, they're difficult to grow as an adult, blooming sized plant for some reason or other, not sure why yet. The only thing I know about them is that they grow in calcareous type sands.

Eulophia petersii is also a lithophyte. I don't grow this species, but I do know it is one. The stone would be granites or sandstones. I imagine diatomite or lava rock would work just fine.

No experience whatsoever with Eulophia taitensus, but I suspect it is also a lithophyte.

Kevin_PR 08-20-2013 12:17 PM

I grow E petersii here in Puerto Rico. I use equal parts promix, perlite, limestone chips, and those red balls I forgot what they are called. It does well for me in full sun.

edub9 09-11-2013 03:15 PM

I grow all the other Eulophia and I am in Naples SW Florida zone 10b.

JC Espinosa 09-11-2013 03:34 PM

Eulpohia Fan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edub9 (Post 607196)
I grow all the other Eulophia and I am in Naples SW Florida zone 10b.

I have an Eulophia petersii, graminea (a weed here), and Oeceoclades (Eulophia) calcarata. I would like to collect more Eulophias. What kind do you have in your collection?

JC

edub9 09-11-2013 03:46 PM

Eulophia graminea
Eulophia decaryana
also 2 unnamed species from thailand
adamanensis
as well as a cross of adamanensis.
Once I get back home I will let you know.
Mine are doing very well here.
I do have a couple backbulbs. You wanna trade?

:biggrin:

JC Espinosa 09-11-2013 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub9 (Post 607204)
Eulophia graminea
Eulophia decaryana
also 2 unnamed species from thailand
adamanensis
as well as a cross of adamanensis.
Once I get back home I will let you know.
Mine are doing very well here.
I do have a couple backbulbs. You wanna trade?

:biggrin:

Absolutely. I'll send a list when I get home late tonight. Looking for anything in particular?

edub9 09-11-2013 09:35 PM

Actually I checked and I only have a backbulb of adamanensis but it is a good healthy one.

---------- Post added at 09:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:32 PM ----------

Here is my huge A&*t*)& wishlist!
But whatever you think you wanna trade I will take just about anything!

Ionopsis Utricularioides
Encyclia Ionophlebia
Eria Floribunda
Grammatophyllum
Catasetum - many
Laelia caulescens
Oncidium floridanum Florida Native
Ionopsis Utricularioides Florida Native
Encyclia Cochleata or syn. Prosthechea cochleata
Rhyncolaelia Glauca
Pleurothallis racemiflora
Pleurothallis Species: minutalis (oxios) Origin: Mexico
Pleurothallis Species: grobyi
Pleurothallis Species: quadricaudata (amphigya) Origin: Colombia - Andys
Lepanthes volador - mottled mini
Lepanthes calodictyon/ telepogoniflora - may be a syn of the above
Lepanthes satyrica
Brassavola digbyana
Eurychone rothschildiana
Scaphyglottis violacea
Sobralia crocea - or any
Epidendrum porpax
Pterostylis
Corybas pictus - helmet orchid
Trichoglottis latisepala
Leptotes unicolor
Den laevifolium
Den discolor
Den bracteosum
Den Primulinum de Leon
Den Thyrsiflorum
Den rigidum
Den wattii
Den moniliforme 'Tsuruhime' - VERIGATED -
Mediocalcar aureo-rubrum - VERIGATED
Dendrobium moniliforme' Manazuru' - VERIGATED - Den canaliculatum var nigrescens - Australia
Den Balexanderae
Den Crumenatum
Den Burana Sweet Hian
Dendrobium pseudolamellatum
Euchile ( Encyclia ) citrina
Haraella Retrocalla
Soterosanthus Shephardii
Corybas Pictus
Chiloschista Viridiflava
Liparis Viridiflora (had)
Dendrobium Crumenatum
DENDROBIUM TRANTUANII mini-mini
Cryptocentrum gracilipes
Dendrobium polysema
Epidendrum montserratense
Schomburgkia Albopurpurea
Epidendrum diffusium
Encyclia cyperifolia
Epidendrum conopseum
Catasetum sanguineum
Ania hookeriana - terrestrial
Neobathiea perrieri
Cryptopus elatus - Angraecoid alliance
Trichopilia brasiliense - Marni T
Dendrobium schoeninum - Marni T
Omoea philippinensis - Marni T
Renanthera vietnamica
Eulophia euglossa
Pholidota chinensis
Pelatanthera insectifera - seattle orchids
Angraecum distichum - seattle orchids
Epidendrum vulgoamparoanum
Gastrochilus fuscopunctatus
Angraecum conchoglossum
Ophrys regis-fernandii - Earwig Orchid
Caladenia tentaculata - Austrailian terrestrial
Mormd. painted desert x Catasetum Donna Wise 'Baker's cherry madness'AM/AOS

JC Espinosa 09-11-2013 10:22 PM

Nice list
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edub9 (Post 607311)
Actually I checked and I only have a backbulb of adamanensis but it is a good healthy one.

---------- Post added at 09:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:32 PM ----------

Here is my huge A&*t*)& wishlist!
But whatever you think you wanna trade I will take just about anything!

Ionopsis Utricularioides
Encyclia Ionophlebia
Eria Floribunda
Grammatophyllum
Catasetum - many
Laelia caulescens
Oncidium floridanum Florida Native
Ionopsis Utricularioides Florida Native
Encyclia Cochleata or syn. Prosthechea cochleata
Rhyncolaelia Glauca
Pleurothallis racemiflora
Pleurothallis Species: minutalis (oxios) Origin: Mexico
Pleurothallis Species: grobyi
Pleurothallis Species: quadricaudata (amphigya) Origin: Colombia - Andys
Lepanthes volador - mottled mini
Lepanthes calodictyon/ telepogoniflora - may be a syn of the above
Lepanthes satyrica
Brassavola digbyana
Eurychone rothschildiana
Scaphyglottis violacea
Sobralia crocea - or any
Epidendrum porpax
Pterostylis
Corybas pictus - helmet orchid
Trichoglottis latisepala
Leptotes unicolor
Den laevifolium
Den discolor
Den bracteosum
Den Primulinum de Leon
Den Thyrsiflorum
Den rigidum
Den wattii
Den moniliforme 'Tsuruhime' - VERIGATED -
Mediocalcar aureo-rubrum - VERIGATED
Dendrobium moniliforme' Manazuru' - VERIGATED - Den canaliculatum var nigrescens - Australia
Den Balexanderae
Den Crumenatum
Den Burana Sweet Hian
Dendrobium pseudolamellatum
Euchile ( Encyclia ) citrina
Haraella Retrocalla
Soterosanthus Shephardii
Corybas Pictus
Chiloschista Viridiflava
Liparis Viridiflora (had)
Dendrobium Crumenatum
DENDROBIUM TRANTUANII mini-mini
Cryptocentrum gracilipes
Dendrobium polysema
Epidendrum montserratense
Schomburgkia Albopurpurea
Epidendrum diffusium
Encyclia cyperifolia
Epidendrum conopseum
Catasetum sanguineum
Ania hookeriana - terrestrial
Neobathiea perrieri
Cryptopus elatus - Angraecoid alliance
Trichopilia brasiliense - Marni T
Dendrobium schoeninum - Marni T
Omoea philippinensis - Marni T
Renanthera vietnamica
Eulophia euglossa
Pholidota chinensis
Pelatanthera insectifera - seattle orchids
Angraecum distichum - seattle orchids
Epidendrum vulgoamparoanum
Gastrochilus fuscopunctatus
Angraecum conchoglossum
Ophrys regis-fernandii - Earwig Orchid
Caladenia tentaculata - Austrailian terrestrial
Mormd. painted desert x Catasetum Donna Wise 'Baker's cherry madness'AM/AOS

Your list looks a lot like my list. I have a number of Encyclias and few Dens to trade, anosmums, moschatum. I'll be dividing a Bulbo papulosum soon. And I think I have a healthy popping Gram bulb. I have to go out when it is light to see what else is on the block. A short version of my wish list and my actual trade list follows soon. What are you interested in trading?

---------- Post added at 10:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:21 PM ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub9 (Post 607311)
Actually I checked and I only have a backbulb of adamanensis but it is a good healthy one.

---------- Post added at 09:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:32 PM ----------

Here is my huge A&*t*)& wishlist!
But whatever you think you wanna trade I will take just about anything!

Ionopsis Utricularioides
Encyclia Ionophlebia
Eria Floribunda
Grammatophyllum
Catasetum - many
Laelia caulescens
Oncidium floridanum Florida Native
Ionopsis Utricularioides Florida Native
Encyclia Cochleata or syn. Prosthechea cochleata
Rhyncolaelia Glauca
Pleurothallis racemiflora
Pleurothallis Species: minutalis (oxios) Origin: Mexico
Pleurothallis Species: grobyi
Pleurothallis Species: quadricaudata (amphigya) Origin: Colombia - Andys
Lepanthes volador - mottled mini
Lepanthes calodictyon/ telepogoniflora - may be a syn of the above
Lepanthes satyrica
Brassavola digbyana
Eurychone rothschildiana
Scaphyglottis violacea
Sobralia crocea - or any
Epidendrum porpax
Pterostylis
Corybas pictus - helmet orchid
Trichoglottis latisepala
Leptotes unicolor
Den laevifolium
Den discolor
Den bracteosum
Den Primulinum de Leon
Den Thyrsiflorum
Den rigidum
Den wattii
Den moniliforme 'Tsuruhime' - VERIGATED -
Mediocalcar aureo-rubrum - VERIGATED
Dendrobium moniliforme' Manazuru' - VERIGATED - Den canaliculatum var nigrescens - Australia
Den Balexanderae
Den Crumenatum
Den Burana Sweet Hian
Dendrobium pseudolamellatum
Euchile ( Encyclia ) citrina
Haraella Retrocalla
Soterosanthus Shephardii
Corybas Pictus
Chiloschista Viridiflava
Liparis Viridiflora (had)
Dendrobium Crumenatum
DENDROBIUM TRANTUANII mini-mini
Cryptocentrum gracilipes
Dendrobium polysema
Epidendrum montserratense
Schomburgkia Albopurpurea
Epidendrum diffusium
Encyclia cyperifolia
Epidendrum conopseum
Catasetum sanguineum
Ania hookeriana - terrestrial
Neobathiea perrieri
Cryptopus elatus - Angraecoid alliance
Trichopilia brasiliense - Marni T
Dendrobium schoeninum - Marni T
Omoea philippinensis - Marni T
Renanthera vietnamica
Eulophia euglossa
Pholidota chinensis
Pelatanthera insectifera - seattle orchids
Angraecum distichum - seattle orchids
Epidendrum vulgoamparoanum
Gastrochilus fuscopunctatus
Angraecum conchoglossum
Ophrys regis-fernandii - Earwig Orchid
Caladenia tentaculata - Austrailian terrestrial
Mormd. painted desert x Catasetum Donna Wise 'Baker's cherry madness'AM/AOS

Are you interested in Eulophia graminea or Oeceoclades maculata?

JC Espinosa 09-12-2013 08:03 PM

My Grow List
 
I will be going through the collection this weekend. I have multiples of some Encyclias, Dendrobiums, Paphios, and others. Here is my grow list to be followed by my wish list.

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Orchid Collection
Last updated, August 24, 2013
Species * Hybrids * NOIDs * Tag no plant

Species

1. Bletia purpurea (PR)

2. Brassavola cucullata
3. -nodosa

4. Bulbophyllum carunculatum
5. –exiguum
6. -flabellum-veneris
7. -nymphopolitanum
8. -papulosum
9. -rothschildianum ‘Agua’
10. -stenobulbon (multiflorum)

11. Cattleya aurantiaca ‘Orange Spots’ x self
12. -intermedia var. orlata x ‘Coronada’

13. Cycnoches chlorichilon

14. Cyrtoches arcuata x self

15. Dendrobium aggregatum
16. -aggregatum var. majus
17. -aloifolium
18. -anceps
19. -anosmum
20. -antennatum
21. -bellinianum
22. -bracteosum
23. -crumenatum
24. -eriaeflorum (darjeelingense)
25. -faciferum
26. -hellwiganum
27. -moschatum
28. –ophioglossum
29. -pierardi
30. -rigidum
31. -spectabile
32. -unicum
33. -victoria-reginae
34. -wassellii
35. -woodsii

36. Encyclia abbreviata
37. -alata ‘Early Bird’ x self
38. -altissima x self
39. -bractescens
40. -ceratistes
41. –cyperifolia
42. -negrilense
43. -oncidioides
44. -profusa x sibling
45. -randii

46. Epidendrum baezense
47. -paniculatum
48. -radiata

49. Eulophia graminea
50. -petersii

51. Gastrochilus dasypogon

52. Gongora quinquenervis
53. -scaphephorus

54. Grammatophyllum scriptum var. citrinum ‘Hihimanu’ AM/AOS

55. Ionopsis utricularoides

56. Maxilaria tenuifolia

57. Oeceoclades calcarata
58. -maculata

59. Oeoniella polystachis

60. Oncidium altisimum
61. –luridum (PR)*

62. Pleurothallis grobyi (Ecuador)
63. -leptifolia

64. Prosthechea cochleata
65. -prismatocarpa

66. Psychilis krugii

67. Restrepiella ophiocephala

68. Stanhopea stevensonii
69. -tigrina

70. Tipularia discolor

71. Tolumnia calochilum

72. Trichocentrum undulatum

73. Triphora gentianoides

Hybrids

1. Aerides houlletiana × Rhynchostylis gigantea 'Spots'

2. Ascocenda ‘Ashley Lowe’ ‘Palmer Orchid’ Red –
3. Ascda. Varut Leopard’

4. Beallara Marfitch ‘Howard’s Dream’ – (Miltassia Howard M. Fitch x Odontioda Fremar)

5. Brassavola nodosa hybrid BG
6. B. ‘Little Stars’ – (B. cordata ‘Hihimanu’ x B. nodosa ‘Mas Mejor’)

7. Brassia ‘Shooting Star’ -

8. Brassidium Golden Gamine “White Knight”

9. Brassocattleya ‘Hipodamia’ (B. nodosa x C. aclandiae)

10. Brassolaelia ‘Yellow Bird’ – Bl. ‘Richard Mueller’ (L. milleri x B. nodosa) x B. nodosa

11. Brassolaeliocattleya (Rhybcholaeliocattleya) ‘Volcano Delicious’ ‘Apricot Volcano’ – (Blc. ‘Golden Delicious’ x Blc. Volcano Gold)
12. Blc. ‘Lime Cooler’ – (Blc. Mem. Helen Brown x B. nodosa)
13. Blc. (Rhybcholaeliocattleya) Memoria Anna Balmores ‘Convex’ – (Cattleya Memoria Robert Strait (Syn. Laeliocattleya Memoria Robert Strait (Lc. Memoria Robert Strait)) × Rhyncholaeliocattleya Good News (Syn. Brassolaeliocattleya Good News (Blc. Good News))
14. Blc. (Rhybcholaeliocattleya) Waianae Leopard ‘Chin Hua’ – Blc. ‘Peach Cobbler’ (Blc. Waikiki Gold x C. guttata) x C. ‘Penny Kuroda’

15. Bulbophyllum A-doribil Lava Flow ‘Eruption’ – (Bulb dolichoblepharon x longissimum) http://www.kipukagraphics.net/gines/...ist%202013.pdf and Bulbophyllum A-doribil Lava Flow | Orchids Online
16. Bulb. Doris Dukes (Bulbophyllum fascinator x Bulbophyllum rothschildianum)

17. Cat. ‘Cluster Red’ BG
18. Cat. ‘Orange Art Shade” BG

19. Cattleytonia ‘Why Not’ – (Bro. sanguinea x C. aurantiaca)

20. Christieara Ruth Murai (Aerides lawrenceae x Ascodenda Yip Sum Wah)

21. Cochleanthes Amazing (Cnths. flabellum x Cnths. amazonica)

22. Dendrobium aggregatum ‘Green Elf’ x Den. aggregatum ‘Yellow Velvet’
23. Den. Anchane Cana
24. Den. Sonia BOM Jo http://www.fnca.mext.go.jp/english/m...e_thailand.pdf, ORCHIDACEAE / Dendrobium (Den.) / Hybrids / Sonia "BOM Jo Red" | Orchids - World.

25. Encyclia alata x dickensoniana
26. E. Quesique - Primary hybrid of E. pyriformis x E. alata
27. E. Summer Stars ‘Jungle Nights’ HCC/AOS – E. Orchid Jungle (E. phoenicia x E. alata) x E. nematocaulon
28. E. ‘Shower of Flowers’ BG
29. E. ‘Sprays of Rose-Colored Flowers’ BG

30. Epilaeliocattleya ‘Charlie Brown’ - C. Rojo (C.> Guarianthe aurantiaca x C. milleri) x E, cordigera PIC
31. Epicattaleya ‘Golden Sunburst’ now Laeliocattleya – Lc. Gold Digger (Laeliocattleya 'Red Gold' x Cattleya 'Warpaint') x Encyclia rufa PIC

32. Laeliocattleya Schilleriana ‘Paradise Blue’ – C. intermedia x L. purpurata PIC
33. Lc. Indigo Mist ‘Cynosure’ Blue – Lc. Mood Indigo x C. gaskelliana PIC
34. Lc. Maui Queen Plum ‘Volcano Queen’ - Lc. Summerland Girl ( C. guttata x C. Grandee [ C. Piltdown x C. trianae]) x C. leopoldii. PIC
35. Lc. Taida Swan ‘Swan’ – Lc. Mildred Rives x Lc. Spring Squall (Lc. Persepolis x Lc. Nippon) PIC

36. Oncidium ‘Dancing Lady’ PIC

37. Onc. Jiuhbao Gold 'Tainan' AM/AOS PIC

38. Phalaenopsis Shih Hua ‘Gold’

39. Rhyncattleanthe ‘Love Triangle’ was C. Chocolate Drop (Cattleya gutatta x C -Guarianthe aurantica) x Potinara ‘San Damiano’ (result of 157 crosses back to Cattleya species) PIC

40. Tolumnia Jairak Rainbow ‘Kooky’ – (Tolumnia Tsiku Vanessa x Tom. Catherine Wilson)
41. Tolumnia Jairak Rainbow ‘Whimsical’


NOIDs – Species and Hybrids

Brassavola (2)
Brassia (2)
Bulbophyllum (7)
Dendrobium (46)
Cattleya (10)
Cattleya hybrids (8)
Encyclia (2)
Epidendrum (2)
Grammatopyllum ? (2)
Maxiliaria (2)
Oncidium (14)
Phalaenopsis (24)
Prosthechea (1)
Schomburgkia (2)
Vanda (5)


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