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tropterrarium 04-30-2013 12:24 AM

Water in morning vs. evening >60F
 
Watering at night is an issue with Botrytus below around 58F night time temperature, so during the colder periods morning watering is certainly indicated.
But what about the warmer seasons when night time is >60F? Is there an advantage to watering in the evening?
My way of thinking has been, that by watering in morning, the evaporative cooling will help keep peak temperatures in check [I do have "under bench" misters, foggers, and swamp cooler; all with automatic controllers]. An other way of looking at it is that there is longer time for plants to absorb water if watering is during evening.
Both arguments make sense, so either I am missing something, or it does not matter. Anybody with some reasoned opinions?

I grow mainly mounted (70-80%) in pretty good humidity (RH60-80%: without watering), in a small GH and two terraria.

RJSquirrel 04-30-2013 01:35 AM

Stomata close at night (or in the dark) as a plant only transpires during the day (or in light) and stomata are part of the transpiration process. if you water them at night the water will still be there in the morning bec the stomates have been closed and no transpiration has occurred. Thats why we are told to water during the mornings is to take full advantage of the water with the light. :twocents:

lambelkip 04-30-2013 03:03 AM

you have that backwards. the stomata close during the day, and are open at night. the recommendation to water in the mornings is to reduce the possibility of a Botrytis (or other mold) infection, since these types of mold grow best when it is dark & damp.

In summer, I water both in the morning and at night, because of the extremely low humidity here. If you're keeping the humidity between 60-80%, you probably do not need to water more than once per day (if that much). of course, this will vary depending on what types of orchids you are growing.

Bud 04-30-2013 05:26 AM

I am with RJ about this....sunlight, is a key reactant in photosynthesis. Most plants require the stomata to be open during daytime....the air spaces in the leaf are saturated with water vapor, which exits the leaf through the stomata (this is known as transpiration). Therefore, plants gain carbon dioxide by simultaneously losing water vapor; and you need the sun's light and energy to do that.

yet Kip is right in saying that watering at night might attract bacteria and sickness to the plant

RJSquirrel 04-30-2013 06:12 AM

backwards hey? Im dissappointed with you kip. your reading comprehension of scientific facts needs improvement :twocents:

Ray 04-30-2013 07:18 AM

In CAM plants (some, but not all orchids), the stomata are only open at night, as that is when the relative humidity is naturally higher. It is an evolutionary adaptation intended to conserve water.


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orchidsarefun 04-30-2013 08:01 AM

This is a good question. We had a speaker at our local Orchid Society who remarked on the fact that in Thailand, it rained day and night and that the plants, in a natural setting and in grow-"shelters" were fine. The only difference to the growing conditions here, that he could come up with as perhaps an explanation, was that here grow and green houses are enclosed. So, maybe, if there was strong ventilation or air movement, plants could be watered at night ? We would have to hear from people who have watered regularly at night; probably few and far between as everyone is always "told" to water in the day, and as early as possible.

tucker85 04-30-2013 08:05 AM

In his book on bulbos, Bill Thoms, recommends fertilizing in the evening because he says that the plant has a longer period to absorb the fertilizer before it dries. But watering or fertilizing in the morning makes a lot more sense to me. If I water early enough in the morning, the plants stay wet for a reasonable period of time and then dry completely before nightfall to help control fungus. But, if I couldn't fit that into my schedule, I would be perfectly fine with watering in the evening. We need to balance what's best with the plant with what's best for us.

Ordphien 04-30-2013 08:18 AM

I'm not sure I count all that much but I water exclusively in the evening.

Around 9 - 11 at night.
Sometimes later.

I don't have any orchid beyond a few basics though.

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lambelkip 04-30-2013 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray (Post 570890)
In CAM plants (some, but not all orchids), the stomata are only open at night, as that is when the relative humidity is naturally higher. It is an evolutionary adaptation intended to conserve water.


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My mistake, I thought most orchids were CAM.

Every orchid book I've read that recommended watering in the morning explained that it was to prevent rot.

However, I've never heard of any scientific study showing any benefit to either watering time. If you're willing to try it out, and it works for you, let us know.


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