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shakkai 08-22-2008 03:59 AM

Bean Leaf Neofinetia (Mameba)
 
I thought I would try to make a list of some of the different types of Neos. This one is for the bean leaf types - those that have shorter, thicker, fatter leaves.

(Photos to follow! And I will add in links to individual posts about these plants as threads get added.)

Beniboushi - A mini bean with rasp leaves.
More info: (to follow)

Kirin Maru - Miniature bean leaf.
More info: http://www.orchidboard.com/community...iran-maru.html

Kisei Gyoku - A newer variety of bean leaf.

Kuro Shinjyu (means Black Pearl) - Tiny plant, with much smaller flowers as well.
More info: http://www.orchidboard.com/community...jyu-spike.html
http://www.orchidboard.com/community...ack-pearl.html


Mameba Nishiki - Miniature bean leaf with white, star shaped flowers.
More info: http://www.orchidboard.com/community...ta-mameba.html

Sedai - Medium sized bean leaf, faster growing than some varieties.

Seikai (means Blue Ocean) - Short bean leaf with downward swept leaves. Light pink, unusual form flowers that face upwards and cluster together on the bloom spike.
More info: http://www.orchidboard.com/community...leaf-type.html

Suikaden (means Imperial Flag) - Curved bean leaf, with very consistent leaves. Flowers have some green in them.
More info: http://www.orchidboard.com/community...n-pottery.html

Tamakongo - Bean leaf with flowers that have a very short spur and a wide, rounded form. Some flowers have pink in them.

Unkai (means Sea of Clouds) - Irregular flowers which are white with a forward facing spur.
More info: http://www.orchidboard.com/community...bean-leaf.html

Yodonomatsu (means Pine of Yodo) - Quite compact bean leaf, smaller than Tamakongo.
More info: http://www.orchidboard.com/community...leaf-type.html

LinhT 08-23-2008 08:15 PM

Oh, one more....Beniboushi. It's a mini bean with rasp leaves. I can make a new entry for that one later so you can link it to this post.

shakkai 08-24-2008 06:59 AM

Added to the list! I'll add the link in when you have time to post. :biggrin:

LinhT 09-04-2008 04:43 PM

Just wanted all the neo groupies to check out these photos....

I don't know the names of any of these but I will find out. Eventually.

ͱݰ*(Т˧)
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I believe the last part of the url thing is the Mandarin pronunciation of the Kanji. So the Japanese name will be different.

camille1585 09-04-2008 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LinhT (Post 143546)
Just wanted all the neo groupies to check out these photos....

I don't know the names of any of these but I will find out. Eventually.

ͱݰ*(Т˧)
구화

I believe the last part of the url thing is the Mandarin pronunciation of the Kanji. So the Japanese name will be different.

That first one seems so incredibly tiny!! I wonder how big it is?

LinhT 09-04-2008 05:31 PM

Not sure, Camille. I'm guessing it may be no bigger than the size of a quarter.

gmdiaz 09-04-2008 07:49 PM

And when you find out. . .you HAVE to report back. Those are both soooo great!

another.one 02-25-2013 02:40 AM

I know the last post was in 2008, but maybe someone can scrounge back into the archives and help me out?
I tried looking at the posted links and they are broken. T-T It was the first time my Neofinetia search sent me to a Korean site and I was heart broken! T^T
If anyone can help me out, I would greatly appreciate it. ;)

Hakumin 02-26-2013 12:57 AM

Going by the name in the broken URL, it looks like this is the first referenced in the links. (Now i want one...dammit)

Korean name is Guigeumgang or Gugeumgang and the Japanese reading of the name is Kamekongou

My Japanese reference says that it's a Chou-mameba, or Super-beanleaf

Korean Links:

ͱݰ*(Т˧) //dzǰ :: ̹ α

난초게시판 - 아래 구금강...

산채농채집채 - 구금강(龜金剛)

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ͱݰ*(Т˧) //dzǰ :: ̹ α

Japanese Links:

- ͷ

- ݵ*

From a couple of the photos however, it seems that the plant may have a propensity to grow long leaves in certain conditions...

---------- Post added at 12:57 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:42 AM ----------

I'm not entirely sure that this is the right one, but the name is the same as the second one linked above.

Korean Name: Guhwa
Japanese Name: Kagaribi

Japanese reference says that it's a tiger variegated small leaved variety, but doesn't say anything about being a bean-leaf.

ѱdzȸ > ȸǰ(ȳ) > *(篝)

â > dz > *

another.one 02-26-2013 12:59 AM

Thanks so much!!! I am loving it! Breaking out the Korean-English dictionary and calling daddy now! :bowing

Hakumin 02-26-2013 01:16 AM

No problem---

Guigeumgang/kamekongo uses the same last two characters as tamakongo, the first character means turtle. A bit of a stretch, but the translation would be "Turtle Vajra"

The second one, guihwa/kagaribi means bonfire.

Also, since you're into the korean references, here's a website to look through. Click through the links at the left.

http://blog.daum.net/okokooo/8480223

another.one 02-26-2013 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakumin (Post 555185)
No problem---

Guigeumgang/kamekongo uses the same last two characters as tamakongo, the first character means turtle. A bit of a stretch, but the translation would be "Turtle Vajra"

The second one, guihwa/kagaribi means bonfire.

Also, since you're into the korean references, here's a website to look through. Click through the links at the left.

http://blog.daum.net/okokooo/8480223

Dare I say it? :) I love you~ Thanks so much! A greater reason for me to go and learn all the Chinese characters. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! :bowing:bowing:bowing

vjo 02-26-2013 07:53 AM

Hakumin, thank you for posting that link, I know that I would never have found it on my own. What lovely pictures, those mounts are wonderful. I wonder how many of us will be out soon looking for interesting rocks and driftwood to try our hand at something like that. I would be out today but it is snowing so it will have to wait.
Thank you again....Jean

MattWoelfsen 11-02-2013 08:31 AM

Bean Leaf Neofinetia (Mameba)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakumin (Post 555177)
Going by the name in the broken URL, it looks like this is the first referenced in the links. (Now i want one...dammit)

Korean name is Guigeumgang or Gugeumgang and the Japanese reading of the name is Kamekongou

My Japanese reference says that it's a Chou-mameba, or Super-beanleaf

Korean Links:

ͱݰ*(Т˧) //dzǰ :: ̹ α

난초게시판 - 아래 구금강...

산채농채집채 - 구금강(龜金剛)

̹

ͱݰ*(Т˧) //dzǰ :: ̹ α

Japanese Links:

- ͷ

- ݵ*

From a couple of the photos however, it seems that the plant may have a propensity to grow long leaves in certain conditions...

---------- Post added at 12:57 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:42 AM ----------

I'm not entirely sure that this is the right one, but the name is the same as the second one linked above.

Korean Name: Guhwa
Japanese Name: Kagaribi

Japanese reference says that it's a tiger variegated small leaved variety, but doesn't say anything about being a bean-leaf.

ѱdzȸ > ȸǰ(ȳ) > *(篝)

â > dz > *

Back when this post was written, it seems linking was the preferred way. But now posting photos of the subject is preferred. I was curious about this discussion. Some of these links no longer work. But the ones that do work yielded this picture that Google Translates the plant as "Turtle kongo".

If you have this plant please share a photo and some observations on this plant.

Here are two pictures of the desired form of this plant:
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/02/eqy6u5e8.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/02/2eqa2y9e.jpg

And here is a picture of the less desired form:
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/02/u9u4y5up.jpg

kentaki 11-11-2013 10:41 PM

Neofinetia isn't my object of affection, so I won't claim to be an expert. But this "bean" leaf reference makes me think it may be a case of direct translation. Mame in Japanese surely means bean. There is no doubt about that.

However, when it is used as an adjective, it also means something roundish and small/dwarf at the same time. A good example would be "Mame Shiba," which is a miniature Shiba Inu. Mame Kogane may be another case, and it is a Japanese name for Japanese beetles. Mameda is a dwarf raccoon dog. I did read some have leaves looking like coffee beans. But is there anybody know for sure "mame" is bean in this case?

Hakumin 11-11-2013 10:58 PM

Mame-ba does literally mean bean-leaf. The Kanji used for the word is 豆葉.

But yes, the english usage of "Bean Leaf" is most certainly a direct translation as you have indicated, and it has discarded the secondary meaning of "mame" (or in this case, the primary meaning) which is often used, as you mention, to indicate small or smallish round things, an equivalent of "mini-" more or less. Examples: Mame-shiba (toy shibainu), Mame-bonsai ( [second?] smallest class of bonsai), Mame-chishiki (trivia, "mini-knowledge")...

(However, the Japanese are very aware of the fact that mame can mean both "bean" and "mini", and beans are cute. Hence a certain adorable franchise called Mameshiba... Yes, beans are cute. )

PaphLover 03-16-2017 12:06 AM

My goodness! The pot or the plant? I can't decide which is cuter!!!!!!!!!!!!

charlesf6 05-22-2017 03:03 PM

I'm venturing.

Pattywack 05-23-2017 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlesf6 (Post 843308)
I'm venturing.

Me too Charles, me too. They are just too cute!

Duane McDowell 08-23-2017 11:59 AM

Oh, wow. That Gugeumgang is astonishing!
No problem finding room for it on the shelf, but I'll bet there might be trouble finding room in the bank account!


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