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Aurelia 06-17-2022 08:25 PM

Dormant phal with odd leaf
 
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I’m Minding this phal which is over 10 years old and only bloomed once early on in that time. I have started it in kelp max and orchid food, repotted from broken down media and given it a sunny spot for the 6 months it’s with me (3 months passed) a leaf fell off (wasn’t too worried as yellow was from outer and it was the oldest leaf) I notice now the second small leaf is yellowing so slowly and dying too. Why the second not the bottom leaf? Roots look great on this orchid and I’m not sure why it’s happening?

estación seca 06-17-2022 11:03 PM

Phals are shade plants. They don't ever need sun shining on the leaves. If it's in large bark you may not be watering enough.

tmoney 06-17-2022 11:53 PM

we have noticed some of our phals will drop a leaf when they are getting ready to do something else. maybe you will get lucky with some flowers!

Dimples 06-18-2022 12:28 AM

The leaves are a very very pale yellow-ish-green which suggests that the light is at the extreme upper end of tolerability. It’s probably adding unnecessary stress to the plant. You don’t want a deep forest green (not enough light) but your leaves are much lighter than is ideal.

Aurelia 06-18-2022 01:51 AM

It looks like that because of the sunlight but it only gets adequate sun and the small leaf is the only one that colour. I had trouble uploading all the pics but I’ll try again. It’s a normal colour phal apart from that leaf

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It gets filtered sun and not too much. It’s getting enough water. Other leaves are fine. Just that second small leaf that’s odd.

Ray 06-18-2022 08:55 AM

OK, here’s my take…

Sometime in the past, the plant hit a spell of “so-so” care, or other issue, that led to a stunted leaf. The plant is a lot healthier now, so “decided” to resorb the phytochemicals and ditch that leaf.

As to not blooming, my guess is that it isn’t getting the required temperature profile to initiate a spike.

Such hybrid absolutely thrive in very hot, humid conditions, but they will not reliably initiate a flower spike until they experience 10-14 days of an average growing temperature about 6-9C cooler. After that, return it to the heat for best spike growth.

People frequently focus on the day/night temperature variation, but that nighttime reduction must be double those earlier figures to achieve the correct average.

Dimples 06-18-2022 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Aurelia (Post 988321)
It looks like that because of the sunlight but it only gets adequate sun and the small leaf is the only one that colour. I had trouble uploading all the pics but I’ll try again. It’s a normal colour phal apart from that leaf

I took another look and you’re right, it was the backlight that made the whole plant look very pale green. Knowing that, I’d agree with Ray’s assessment.

Roberta 06-18-2022 03:07 PM

I have bloomed Phals in the house with rather minor temperature variation... the trick that worked for me was to increase the duration of light to 12 hours using supplemental lighting. (I used fluorescents, it was years ago, but now LEDs are available that use much less energy) So low light, but more hours might get you flowers.

Ray 06-18-2022 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Roberta (Post 988348)
I have bloomed Phals in the house with rather minor temperature variation...

There is no doubt that some phals will bloom without the relatively extreme temperature reduction, but the thing about exposing them to it is that it is a way of reliably getting them to do so.

Aurelia 06-23-2022 11:44 PM

Thank you so so much! Yes it’s had some hard times with it’s owner. It almost died from bug infestation. Thank you also for the advice re blooming and temperatures

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I do have a light I put a high wat bulb in I can use. Thank you, I’ll give it a go.


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