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Diane56Victor 08-21-2020 09:33 PM

NOID Phal with no leaves
 
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I bought a NOID phal from Bunnings (local hardware store) early in the year as a rescue as it had flowered and hadn't really been cared for afterwards. It had several green leaves but a little dehydrated, it picked up with regular watering.

About 6 weeks ago I saw some green emerging from the main stem and it was getting stuck behind what looked like an extremely dried old stub of a leaf.
When trying to release this the whole top of the plant broke away.

After the swearing ceased :((

I didn't see any rot or other problems apart from the one I had just created.
With a decent root system and something green growing I thought I would just keep things normal and see what, if anything, would happen.
I'm so happy to see at least 5 new green nubbins on the old stem.
I know this will be a long recovery but I'm glad to see some signs that despite a total lack of leaves its managing...so far...to grow.

It's growing with 3 other phals on a table in the family room that gets eastern light but its far enough back not to get direct sunlight on any leaves. Temps range from 13C overnight in Winter to 26C in Summer

Paphluvr 08-21-2020 10:13 PM

It does indeed have some new growth coming. It's going to be a long road, but if you're willing to wait you may get to eventually see this thing bloom again. I would consider your winter overnight temperature somewhat chilly for a Phal.

estación seca 08-21-2020 11:51 PM

Those look like roots, not leaves. I would throw it away right now and use the time to take care of your good orchids more likely to grow and flower.

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Originally Posted by Diane56Victor (Post 933976)
...Ah come on allow me my little experiment!

Well, of course you can do whatever you want!

Diane56Victor 08-22-2020 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Paphluvr (Post 933964)
It does indeed have some new growth coming. It's going to be a long road, but if you're willing to wait you may get to eventually see this thing bloom again. I would consider your winter overnight temperature somewhat chilly for a Phal.

13C would be the lowest it has ever endured going by the temp guage on the kitchen bench.

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Originally Posted by estación seca (Post 933968)
Those look like roots, not leaves. I would throw it away right now and use the time to take care of your good orchids more likely to grow and flower.

Ah come on allow me my little experiment!

SouthPark 08-22-2020 03:14 PM

Nice one Diane! Things are looking very good for this one now, after you helped it. This one is a survivor!

rbarata 08-22-2020 05:33 PM

I would try to save it but be prepared for a few years before it blooms...if you take good care of it, that means warm temps (above 20ºC) and an humid environment.
You are in the "wrong" hemisphere otherwise you might get some new leaves growing now.

Anyway, I always found a special pleasure in recovering plants in bad shape as it's the most rewarding and educational activity in orchid growing.

Good luck!:)

Diane56Victor 08-22-2020 06:05 PM

Thanks SouthPark, It certainly is trying hard, and so quickly after the damage.

The reasonable root system it had already is a bonus, and if these green nubbins do turn out to be roots as ES said that is good too.
Whether it can produce a leaf, who knows, but its not doing any harm sitting on the tray doing its thing.
Would only be a space there if I threw it out.

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Originally Posted by rbarata (Post 934028)
I would try to save it but be prepared for a few years before it blooms...if you take good care of it, that means warm temps (above 20ºC) and an humid environment.
You are in the "wrong" hemisphere otherwise you might get some new leaves growing now.

Anyway, I always found a special pleasure in recovering plants in bad shape as it's the most rewarding and educational activity in orchid growing.

Good luck!:)

Thanks rbarata
I know it will take a long time, Im used to waiting, I like to get younger plants and grow them on.
We are heading quickly into Spring, usually here in South Australia 1st of September is like flicking a switch. The weather changes fast, so it wont be long before we have warmer temps.

You are so right about the pleasure of getting struggling plants back on their roots.

SouthPark 08-22-2020 06:07 PM

Diane - I think medium light level and warm temperature will give it a nice chance. If there's continued growth activity, then that will be a nice learning experience - as we'll be able to see what's going to happen with those green things.

Diane56Victor 08-22-2020 06:29 PM

Medium light level is no problem, temps might be a little low overnight for a couple more weeks, 13C has been the lowest and that would have only been for an hour or so before I got up and put the heat cycle on the air con on.
Its been 17C inside overnight with no heating on.
Moving air wont be a problem as we have ceiling fans.

SouthPark 08-22-2020 06:33 PM

Diane - that's ok. The nice thing is that you're at least giving this one a chance. Thumbs up from me here.


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