Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web !

Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web ! (http://www.orchidboard.com/community/)
-   Hybrids (http://www.orchidboard.com/community/hybrids/)
-   -   Phal. 'Dove' (http://www.orchidboard.com/community/hybrids/56488-phal-dove.html)

landanew 01-27-2012 12:31 PM

Phal. 'Dove'
 
4 Attachment(s)
One of my whites in bloom. This one has a great scent!

landanew 01-27-2012 12:34 PM

I need to figure out my camera. The bloom pictures are all of the same bloom taken at the same time. The second (white) one is the color of the bloom.

Thriodien 01-27-2012 01:53 PM

That's really lovely!! Definatelly wish list material ;)

RosieC 01-27-2012 01:58 PM

Gorgeous!

It can be difficult to get the right colour in artificial lighting. If you've not already then try playing with the white balance settings and try a manual white balance if nothing else works.

landanew 01-27-2012 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RosieC (Post 466514)
Gorgeous!

It can be difficult to get the right colour in artificial lighting. If you've not already then try playing with the white balance settings and try a manual white balance if nothing else works.

Thanks I will mess with it. I would like to be able to get pictures that look like the actual flower.

msaar 01-27-2012 02:34 PM

Phal. Dove is the name listed by Norman's, I see, but Phal. Dove is an older hybrid (1985) that is 5/8 amabilis and 3/8 lindenii, not likely to look like your flower. Maybe someone in Taiwan is playing fast and loose with names?

landanew 01-27-2012 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msaar (Post 466534)
Phal. Dove is the name listed by Norman's, I see, but Phal. Dove is an older hybrid (1985) that is 5/8 amabilis and 3/8 lindenii, not likely to look like your flower. Maybe someone in Taiwan is playing fast and loose with names?

I will get in touch with Norman's and see if they know anything about it.

sweetjblue 01-27-2012 05:53 PM

I have one of these as well. To clarify the plant is Phal.(P. Gelblieber x P. Timothy Christopher 4N) 'Dove'. Meaning this is an unnamed cross with the cultivar name 'Dove'. Dove is not the name of the cross. These have been listed by Norman's for years and a name has never given to the cross because it has not yet been registered.
Hope that clears it up for you:)

Love the blooms on yours, very nice!

Judi

msaar 01-27-2012 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetjblue (Post 466569)
I have one of these as well. To clarify the plant is Phal.(P. Gelblieber x P. Timothy Christopher 4N) 'Dove'. Meaning this is an unnamed cross with the cultivar name 'Dove'. Dove is not the name of the cross. These have been listed by Norman's for years and a name has never given to the cross because it has not yet been registered.

Judi

That would seem to be the case; Norman's has listed the names in reverse order on the web site, causing my confusion. They know better.

tucker85 01-27-2012 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetjblue (Post 466569)
I have one of these as well. To clarify the plant is Phal.(P. Gelblieber x P. Timothy Christopher 4N) 'Dove'. Meaning this is an unnamed cross with the cultivar name 'Dove'. Dove is not the name of the cross. These have been listed by Norman's for years and a name has never given to the cross because it has not yet been registered.
Hope that clears it up for you:)

Love the blooms on yours, very nice!

Judi

That should be a good cross. Both of those are excellent phals. Your's is beautiful. Good growing.

landanew 01-27-2012 06:45 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetjblue (Post 466569)
I have one of these as well. To clarify the plant is Phal.(P. Gelblieber x P. Timothy Christopher 4N) 'Dove'. Meaning this is an unnamed cross with the cultivar name 'Dove'. Dove is not the name of the cross. These have been listed by Norman's for years and a name has never given to the cross because it has not yet been registered.
Hope that clears it up for you:)

Love the blooms on yours, very nice!

Judi

I have a question then, I looked up the parents, how did they get such a pristine white offspring???? :scratchhead:

landanew 01-27-2012 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tucker85 (Post 466575)
That should be a good cross. Both of those are excellent phals. Your's is beautiful. Good growing.

Thanks, I agree, I really like this guy! :biggrin:

FairyInTheFlowers 01-27-2012 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetjblue (Post 466569)
I have one of these as well. To clarify the plant is Phal.(P. Gelblieber x P. Timothy Christopher 4N) 'Dove'.

It really annoys me when people make crosses that are going to end up being aneuploid!!! :(( At least they clarify that it will be. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by landanew (Post 466578)
I have a question then, I looked up the parents, how did they get such a pristine white offspring???? :scratchhead:

First off, the picture of that Timothy Christopher is most likely mislabeled, as all pictures I found of it were white, and the parentage is ([equestris x stuartiana] x aphrodite), which means it should not have a colour anywhere near that picture, unless the Cassandra was 4n. Here is one such Timothy Christopher that I found on the internet. (Which is clearly a picture from Paramount Orchids, just to cover my behind)
http://www.paramountorchids.com/jpg/...er1%20copy.JPG
Secondly, Phal. micholitzii, which is a parent of Gelblieber, which is (amboinensis x micholitzii) is known to suppress colours, which makes this kind of colour possible.

Phals certainly are a fun group to breed with!!! :biggrin:

sweetjblue 01-28-2012 08:05 AM

Thank you Cody for that wonderful explanation!

Judi

landanew 01-28-2012 10:03 AM

Wow, the breeding aspect of these guys are fascinating! And it is crazy that there is, so much, incorrect information out there. It makes it hard on those of us who are just starting out. Thank goodness for this forum, it helps keep these things straight. Thanks for the help! :bowing

Oscarman 01-28-2012 10:20 AM

Really nice Brad. Good shape and flatness.

landanew 01-28-2012 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oscarman (Post 466705)
Really nice Brad. Good shape and flatness.

Thanks, I really like it too. I am glad that it is nice to you guys that know what you are looking at! :biggrin:


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:32 AM.

3.8.9
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.37 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.


Clubs vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.