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VickiC 08-09-2010 09:54 PM

my 1st paph..need culture help, please
 
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Hi,
I rec'd a Paph Urbanianum today. Could someone who is familiar with it please give me culture advice? Since I've never grown a Paph before, I don't even know the basics, so I would appreciate any general tips, also.
Vicki

Zoi2 08-10-2010 10:03 PM

That's a really nice looking plant, I love those leaves.
I only have paphs so am far from an expert but I am bumping this in hopes someone will chime in.
Joann

VickiC 08-10-2010 10:58 PM

Zoi2
 
Thank you!
Vicki




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Originally Posted by Zoi2 (Post 336047)
That's a really nice looking plant, I love those leaves.
I only have paphs so am far from an expert but I am bumping this in hopes someone will chime in.
Joann


Call_Me_Bob 08-10-2010 11:06 PM

i cant help, but i am sure interested in the answer!

VickiC 08-10-2010 11:35 PM

help
 
Let's keep our fingers crossed that someone comes along to help us!




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Originally Posted by help (Post 336066)
i cant help, but i am sure interested in the answer!


WhiteRabbit 08-11-2010 01:26 AM

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I am sure others with more Paph experience will chime in - but just wanted to get you started a bit - if my light info or temperature info aren't correct I am sure someone will point that out lol

Mine have been doing pretty well so far - one's blooming, so guess I am doing ok. I have them in shady east and west windows.

quiltergal 08-11-2010 02:04 AM

Nice looking plant Vicki. I'm hardly a Paph. expert but I'm growing and blooming several from different sections.

In my growing condtions they dry out very quickly so a clay pot would never work for me. Clear plastic pots not only allow me to keep track of the roots but they hold moisture longer. Paphs do not like to go completely dry ever. They can take quite a bit more light than most people think. Mine are growing in a southwest bay window with supplemental T5 lighting.

Some of the strap leaf varieties like a little extra calcium. You can buy chicken scratch at a feed store for super cheap. It's just crushed oyster shells. Sprinkle that on top of the medium and it will slowy leach calcium down into the pot. Paph. urbanianum is from the Barbata section but I'm not sure if it's a calcium lover or not.

CTB 08-11-2010 06:40 AM

I have my Paph's in a bright North window sill, in perlite and fir bark, they were in spag when purchased.
They have tripled in size, with two watering a week. One with Fert. and seaweed and one without. They are varg leaves and make a pretty plant even without flower, but the flowers lasted three months. They are such a beautiful orchid.

Tindomul 08-11-2010 09:46 AM

Thanks guys for the responses as they have helped me too! Thanks Vicki for posting this. I purchased a variegated leaf Paph from Trader Joes two days ago and really have no clue how to help it, haha. Impulse buying. I'll make a separate post somewhere. I really had no clue how often to water or how much light etc....

VickiC 08-11-2010 11:36 PM

WhiteRabbit
 
How much light do you think yours are getting? I know, it's probably hard to say. When I surfed around looking for info. about Paphs in general, I saw contridictions (that's not uncommon for the internet, you know)....one site said 800-1000 footcandles of light, another site said 1000-1500 fc., etc. I read that they can take more light than some people think (like in a greenhouse) and then I would read the opposite, and several sites just spoke of certain windows that would be best. Same for temperature. I looked around here at other threads, too, so I tried to find out more before I asked this question.

Thanks for your reply and help. I'm glad yours are doing good.
Vicki

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Originally Posted by WhiteRabbit (Post 336094)
..

I am sure others with more Paph experience will chime in - but just wanted to get you started a bit - if my light info or temperature info aren't correct I am sure someone will point that out lol

Mine have been doing pretty well so far - one's blooming, so guess I am doing ok. I have them in shady east and west windows.


RJSquirrel 08-12-2010 12:14 AM

this guy is no longer selling but his site is still up and there is some really good info here we might all find useful...take a look if you like as I have found it very helpful myself using his culture charts for individual paphs. And straightening out the lime vs no lime paph questions as he has them listed as Calcicolous (lime needy) or not..

Slipper Articles

and good luck with your paph they are super growers and really a treat when they start to bloom!!!

VickiC 08-12-2010 12:44 AM

quiltergal
 
Ok...thanks, Terri.
I like to see what's going on underneath, too.

Good advice...thanks again,
Vicki



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Originally Posted by quiltergal (Post 336096)
Nice looking plant Vicki. I'm hardly a Paph. expert but I'm growing and blooming several from different sections.

In my growing condtions they dry out very quickly so a clay pot would never work for me. Clear plastic pots not only allow me to keep track of the roots but they hold moisture longer. Paphs do not like to go completely dry ever. They can take quite a bit more light than most people think. Mine are growing in a southwest bay window with supplemental T5 lighting.

Some of the strap leaf varieties like a little extra calcium. You can buy chicken scratch at a feed store for super cheap. It's just crushed oyster shells. Sprinkle that on top of the medium and it will slowy leach calcium down into the pot. Paph. urbanianum is from the Barbata section but I'm not sure if it's a calcium lover or not.


VickiC 08-12-2010 12:59 AM

RJSquirrel
 
Thanks! This is a very good site. I'm gonna check it out better.....I just glanced at it briefly. I know it will help me a lot.
Thanks again,
Vicki



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Originally Posted by RJSquirrel (Post 336370)
this guy is no longer selling but his site is still up and there is some really good info here we might all find useful...take a look if you like as I have found it very helpful myself using his culture charts for individual paphs. And straightening out the lime vs no lime paph questions as he has them listed as Calcicolous (lime needy) or not..

Slipper Articles

and good luck with your paph they are super growers and really a treat when they start to bloom!!!


Lagoon 08-12-2010 06:08 AM

Its always abit confusing from web site to wed site. The more recent infomation on Urbanianum shows they are not calcareous in nature.

Paphiopedilum urbanianum

You can always post on one of the slipper forums to get more detailed info.
This is a beauty Vicki - enjoy you're new slipper :D

RosieC 08-12-2010 07:56 AM

I grow my mottled leaf paphs like yours along with my Phals in very similar conditions. I have them in an east window (behind a sheer curtain) and I try and keep them a fraction moister than my phals but not by much.

They are all growing leaves, new fans, and even roots (though the roots grow very slowly). They are all growing much faster than my strap leaf paph and one of them is just opening my first ever paph re-bloom (so I'm thinking I must have got at least something right in the culture).

I keep my strap leaf paph in higher light on the south-west side of the house. It's behind a frosted window (in the bathroom) but otherwise get's direct light from about midday. Again I keep it just moister than my phals and temps are all arround the same. This one is slow growing but even that is showing the first signs of spikes and has 4 growing fans plus a tiny new one just starting.

RosieC 08-12-2010 09:16 AM

One other note. I was told that if the leaves start to get paler it's getting too much light. I had mine in the south-west window near the strap leaf paph to begin with and it got really pale. Seems to have got darker back to it's original colour now I've moved it.

VickiC 08-12-2010 08:16 PM

Lagoon
 
Hi Gloria,
Thanks so much for the link! There is lots of info there, and I have barely started reading, but I want to later tonight. According to Wikipedia, Urbanianum is almost extinct in the wild. That's interesting.

You mentioned that I can post on one of the Slipper forums for more info....do I not have to join to be able to ask for advice, make comments, etc.? I would like to know more, if poss.

I agree...it's very pretty and I hope I can do it justice by learning how to take care of it correctly....especially this being my first Paph.

Thanks again,
Vicki

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Originally Posted by Lagoon (Post 336402)
Its always abit confusing from web site to wed site. The more recent infomation on Urbanianum shows they are not calcareous in nature.

Paphiopedilum urbanianum

You can always post on one of the slipper forums to get more detailed info.
This is a beauty Vicki - enjoy you're new slipper :D


VickiC 08-12-2010 08:38 PM

RosieC
 
I 'think' that I've decided to try to grow it in my greenhouse, because according to my light meter, my East window doesn't supply enough light. I imagine that may be because of the design of our house.....part of it extends outwards next to the window, and cuts off some of the light. According to what little I've learned about Paphs so far, they don't like an extremely hot environment, and my greenhouse is. It's way too hot in the summer. I'm going to try to adjust that in one small spot, just for this Paph. I think I have a space picked out for it where it will stay cooler than my other greenhouse plants and by using a very small piece of fabric remant, it should get more light than inside my house, but hopefully not too much. I will take your advice and grow it a bit moister than my Phals.

I hope you will share your re-bloom photo with us. I would really like to see it! Isn't it a good feeling to know that you're doing 'something' right, and I feel sure you're doing MORE than just 'something' correctly.
Thanks,
Vicki


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Originally Posted by RosieC (Post 336414)
I grow my mottled leaf paphs like yours along with my Phals in very similar conditions. I have them in an east window (behind a sheer curtain) and I try and keep them a fraction moister than my phals but not by much.

They are all growing leaves, new fans, and even roots (though the roots grow very slowly). They are also growing much faster than my strap leaf paph and one of them is just opening my first ever paph re-bloom (so I'm thinking I must have got at least something right in the culture).

I keep my strap leaf paph in higher light on the south-west side of the house. It's behind a frosted window (in the bathroom) but otherwise get's direct light from about midday. Again I keep it just moister than my phals and temps are all arround the same. This one is slow growing but even that is showing the first signs of spikes and has 4 growing fans plus a tiny new one just starting.


VickiC 08-12-2010 08:40 PM

RosieC
 
Thank you for the tip! I'll certainly keep an eye of it!



Quote:

Originally Posted by RosieC (Post 336428)
One other note. I was told that if the leaves start to get paler it's getting too much light. I had mine in the south-west window near the strap leaf paph to begin with and it got really pale. Seems to have got darker back to it's original colour now I've moved it.


Lagoon 08-12-2010 08:55 PM

Hi Vicki , you're welcome :) You will have to be a member to post, just sign up, its easy. I think you will find some very nice people over there - very willing to help out when they can. That slipper forum does remind me of the OB alot, friendly bunch :D

Then you can go GAGA over all the photos :biggrin:

VickiC 08-12-2010 09:04 PM

quiltergal
 
By the way, I repotted it in a 3" plastic pot take.




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Originally Posted by VickiC (Post 336375)
Ok...thanks, Terri.
I like to see what's going on underneath, too.

Good advice...thanks again,
Vicki


VickiC 08-12-2010 09:17 PM

CTB
 
Wow...tripled in size! That's awesome. They must really like the care you're giving them!

I don't do well with sphag, so I would have repotted, too.

So, yours flowered for 3 mo. That's awesome.

I agree....just the plant itself is pretty. I love varigated leaves....like my Psychopsis. I think it looks cool.

Thanks for your reply and input,
Vicki








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Originally Posted by CTB (Post 336116)
I have my Paph's in a bright North window sill, in perlite and fir bark, they were in spag when purchased.
They have tripled in size, with two watering a week. One with Fert. and seaweed and one without. They are varg leaves and make a pretty plant even without flower, but the flowers lasted three months. They are such a beautiful orchid.


VickiC 08-12-2010 09:24 PM

Hi,
I can certainly relate to 'clueless'. I am really looking forward to your thread. :D
Vicki


Quote:

Originally Posted by Tindomul (Post 336147)
Thanks guys for the responses as they have helped me too! Thanks Vicki for posting this. I purchased a variegated leaf Paph from Trader Joes two days ago and really have no clue how to help it, haha. Impulse buying. I'll make a separate post somewhere. I really had no clue how often to water or how much light etc....



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