Slc Bright Angel x Blc Toshie Aoki 'Robyn'
 

Second time it has bloomed and it's time for the sales table. The colour is beautiful but the shape is poor unfortunately.

It doesn't look like this cross has been registered.

Everything is in colour. And I don't know why you don't like the shape. It is not superb, but it is not poor either.

Hi Bolero,
ditto what Shadow said, but if you ever want to sell it or anything similar let me know ;) - you might not remember me- we've talked before initially through Gardenweb. I'm in Yinnar which is next to the Hazelwood Power Station in West Gippsland Yinnar.

I don't have a proper GH yet but I'm planning on building one in the spring.

Regards
Damian.

The shape in the picture is deceptive, it's not as filled in as it looks and it's certainly not 'round'.

Compared to other compact flowers, although the colour is good, it won't ever win anything with shape. I know that's not everything in a plant but it's important to me to show them.

Still looks good Bolero.

I didn't know that you are looking for an award. Well, only small percent of orchids is an award quality and if you want one you have to bloom lots of them or to buy a division of an awarded plant. But in both cases it will cost lots of money. Hope next time you will be more lucky. :)

Not after an award although it would be nice and one I was one point from an HCC......oh well!!!

No just looking to show (as I'm a student judge) and want to be competitive.

I have a few really good plants and a few really bad ones.......the bad ones I'm going to sell and with the money buy some more seedlings.

;-)

I heared these words so many times.... that I will never buy an orchid from another orchid hobbyist. Seems to me everybody sells those plants that are not nice or don't bloom. :) Me too.... :biggrin:

I never sell off plants that won't bloom. I don't think it's fair on the buyer.

But I can't see why selling these off to casual growers who like them would be a bad thing. I guess it's a really shallow attitude of mine to be honest, but having said that I have some really average plants from when I first started growing. They may not look great but I have become very attached to them.

Being a part of a judging panel I've learnt to become increasingly ruthless with my newer plants though.

If I sell the plant that did't bloom for me I always say that. Well, it was only one plant that didn't bloom. But the people still buy. Probably, because I sell very cheap....

Fair enough then......maybe they will get it to flower as they have different conditions as well.

Sometimes that can happen too.

Showbenching and 'dogs'.
 

I have a friend who refers to any orchid that is not worth benching as a 'dog' :lol: ...

I still like growing dogs because with each plant, my experience and therefore understanding of how I can grow healthy orchids that will bloom to their best potential improves....

Possibly down the road sometime I might get rid of them but for the time being the education and personal pleasure they give me outweighs my desire to have only those good enough to show.

Besides that I'm still a novice anyway and I tend to grow more obscure plants that others at my local orchid club don't even know let alone grow.

It would be better if seller's admitted that they can't get the particular plant they're selling to bloom :roll:

But on Ebay there are so many 'rare' and 'hard to find' plants that in fact are not :angry: I started off my collection with a lot of plants brought on Ebay but now I only buy from nurseries that are reputable according to my friend or through people I personally know, such as members of my local orchid club.

It is nice to buy from nurseries but we don't have any over here. So we need to order abroad via middlemen who charge twice the nursery price. Plus shipping costs. And the quality is not guaranteed. Sometimes I wait for an ordered plant as long as a year and when I get it I have to waste it because it was dead few months ago.

Shadow,
that sounds postively awful!!!l :( .

I've ordered from nurseries and bought and received plants from interstate that arrived in good to excellent condition.. I guess I'm lucky there is so much available in Australia! :nod: .

I did lose a mounted Dendrobium lodgesii seedling once ..it looked ok when it got here but rapidly lost all it's leaves.. I still have it sitting there but I doubt it will recover- not enough energy left in the tiny little canes.

Is there much available over there from personal growers who have built up collections? Is the Ukraine cold?

It is possible to buy orchids from personal growers in Russia but most of them are unnamed hybrids from Hollland or the plants with defective blooms, no award quality plants. And there are only few experienced people with decent collections in Ukraine . So the middlemen are still the best ways, just need to find the most honest one. But the price will remain high (don't forget the cost of import permits, other paperwork).

The last winter was very warm but the temperature can go down as low as - 30 degrees (Celsius).

Do you have a main orchid society there that judges and awards plants?

-30? :shock: Brrr, that is cold! And I thought 5 degrees cecius was cold :blushing:

We don't have any registered orchid society in Ukraine. No meetings and definitely no awards and no judges. We do communicate via Internet or phone, but it is not an organized and registered community. :(

Darn :( Does that mean you are more careful and selective in choosing what orchids to buy and have a smaller collection as a result?

I agree the shaping good be better, But still a nice little catt flower. The colors are wonderful :D

Not necessarily. Why do you think so?

I'm so sorry for this continuing off. :blushing: Hope, Bolero will forgive us. Or we can move to private messaging to continue this discussion about peculiarities of orchid growing in Ukraine. :blushing:

No it's fine, keep going with the discussion. It's good in a way that the discussion isn't just about the plant but other things as well.

I find it entertaining and informative.

I think the colouration on this one is beautiful:)

I was thinking in terms of price and dead or alive arrival... that if you have to pay a lot and go through middlemen that you would actually very carefully decide what plants you want and why and not just pick anything from a list?

Yes, of course. But don't you think about what you get? I always think for few months about what to order next time. And I always get less than I want, unfortunately.... :( But from the other side it is good, because my growing space is limited at the moment.

I haven't really made big orders [well just the one time I did ;) ] with nurseries, though I haven't got a proper GH setup yet and when it is I'll bet that empty space will be filled up in no time :lol:

Generally I've ordered 1-2 plants when buying other supplies like pots.

If there were any nurseries closer to me [say 20 minutes] I bet I'd be buying 1 everyday! :shock: :nod: