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RosieC 12-22-2009 06:29 PM

My first Zygo - any one got care advice - don't even know what it's related to
 
One of my purchases at the weekend was a Zygopetulam.

Since the picture was taken the second flower has fully opened and three more buds are at the stage that second was at. I thought one of the buds looked droopy and was worried it would blast but it's started opening.

I don't even know what alliance this is in or what it is related to. I have NO clue on how to care for it. Anyone got any advice so I don't kill this beauty.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_o4OXVkcS2VU/Sz...%20%281%29.JPG http://lh4.ggpht.com/_o4OXVkcS2VU/Sz...%20%283%29.JPG http://lh4.ggpht.com/_o4OXVkcS2VU/Sz...%20%284%29.JPG

orchidbingo 12-22-2009 06:40 PM

I think its in the Oncidium alliance. I grow mine like my Milts and Bolopetalum.
Here's a link to a picture of Bolopetalum. I own one of these and it bloomed last Aug.

http://www.theorchidworks.com/varieties/img/Z278.jpg

bingo

Encee 12-22-2009 06:56 PM

As far as i am concerned my Zygos are treated the same as my Cymbidiums. Perhaps they will tolerate a little more shade to stop the leaves from getting black spots

King_of_orchid_growing:) 12-22-2009 07:17 PM

Zygopetalums are in the Maxillaria tribe.

They like even year round moisture.

Bright shade to medium light.

Intermediate to warm temperatures.

Moderate to high humidity (60% to 100%).

Grows very fast. Blooms easy. Very fragrant (fragrance is usually from 9:00 am to 4:00 pm). Easy grower.

Forms spikes from the base of the newer growths.

Has pseudobulbs.

Yours seem to be all lead growths. I find it unusual how yours doesn't have a single growth with a single pseudobulb.

I don't recommend doing what the seller did (removing the backbulbs/pseudobulbs and dealing with only the lead growths). It's not a good cultural practice as it would not allow the younger shoots to use the stored energy from the pseudobulbs. This could cause stunting of the newer pseudobulbs. Subsequent pseudobulbs afterwards would gradually get larger, but it will take time.

Roly0217 12-22-2009 07:32 PM

I love the Zygos even though I only have 2 of them. They have a great frangrance to them. Mine would usually be fragrant before midday.

andrew__ 12-22-2009 08:11 PM

You're killing me here - every time I see you post about an orchid it's another one I need to get (or already have).

Good find. Is it a NOID or do you have a name to add to my wish list ;)

King_of_orchid_growing:) 12-22-2009 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew__ (Post 279754)
You're killing me here - every time I see you post about an orchid it's another one I need to get (or already have).

Good find. Is it a NOID or do you have a name to add to my wish list ;)

:rofl:

If you like this...

You might like Zygonisia Cynosure 'Blue Birds'

http://www.lowesorchids.com/images/Z...20Birds%27.JPG

andrew__ 12-22-2009 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by King_of_orchid_growing:) (Post 279755)
:rofl:

If you like this...

You might like Zygonisia Cynosure 'Blue Birds'

http://www.lowesorchids.com/images/Z...20Birds%27.JPG

That's it, I need to stop coming here! :evil:

RosieC 12-23-2009 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orchidbingo (Post 279740)
I think its in the Oncidium alliance. I grow mine like my Milts and Bolopetalum.
Here's a link to a picture of Bolopetalum. I own one of these and it bloomed last Aug.

http://www.theorchidworks.com/varieties/img/Z278.jpg

bingo

Wow, I like that Bolopetalum, not come accross those before.

I'm still newish to all orchids with p-bulbs and I've bought 4 of them at the weekend.

RosieC 12-23-2009 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Encee (Post 279742)
As far as i am concerned my Zygos are treated the same as my Cymbidiums. Perhaps they will tolerate a little more shade to stop the leaves from getting black spots

Thanks Encee,

I bought my first Cymbidium at the weekend as well. I've really branched out this time as I bought the first Cym, the first Zygo, the first Onc, and the first Colmanara.

Prior to that I had a new-ish Miltoniopsis, a dying Miltoniopsis and a mounted miltonia which is actually doing OK.

It's all a big new adventure with all these new ones :biggrin:

RosieC 12-23-2009 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roly0217 (Post 279748)
They have a great frangrance to them. Mine would usually be fragrant before midday.

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_of_orchid_growing:) (Post 279746)
Very fragrant (fragrance is usually from 9:00 am to 4:00 pm).

That explains why I noticed it was fragrant when I bought it (arround midday) but have not noticed it since (been out of work when it would have been fragrant).

RosieC 12-23-2009 04:36 PM

Thanks for all the info King, that will be a great help:biggrin:

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_of_orchid_growing:) (Post 279746)
Yours seem to be all lead growths. I find it unusual how yours doesn't have a single growth with a single pseudobulb.

It actually does have two p-bulbs. One is arround 3" high and 1.5" wide, the other is tiny at less than 0.5" high. The large p-bulb is hidden side on by the right hand lead growth in the picture.

It's not as plump as the p-bulbs on some of my other orchids but doesn't look too shrivlled either.

RosieC 12-23-2009 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew__ (Post 279759)
That's it, I need to stop coming here! :evil:

:rofl: I know that feeling looking at everyone else's pics. It's all the pictures here that got me in to collecting more than just one or two orchids in the first place.:biggrin:

King_of_orchid_growing:) 12-23-2009 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RosieC (Post 279867)
Thanks for all the info King, that will be a great help:biggrin:

You're welcome, Rosie. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RosieC (Post 279867)
It actually does have two p-bulbs. One is arround 3" high and 1.5" wide, the other is tiny at less than 0.5" high. The large p-bulb is hidden side on by the right hand lead growth in the picture.

Oh, well then that's good! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by RosieC (Post 279867)
It's not as plump as the p-bulbs on some of my other orchids but doesn't look too shrivlled either.

Don't worry about that, that's kinda normal. It's just an old backbulb.

RosieC 12-23-2009 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_of_orchid_growing:) (Post 279869)
Don't worry about that, that's kinda normal. It's just an old backbulb.

Thanks King, that's good to know as I'm pretty new to orchids with p-bulbs in general.

Am I right in thinking that these 'lead growths' will develop p-bulbs or do the p-bulbs develop from somewhere else.

I've been watching my mounted Milt quite closely as it grows and I have seen growths of leaves only, which have then developed p-bulbs at the center pushing the leaves apart. Do these do something similar? (Sorry for the newbie question :blushing:)

Roly0217 12-23-2009 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RosieC (Post 279871)
Am I right in thinking that these 'lead growths' will develop p-bulbs or do the p-bulbs develop from somewhere else.

Rosie as the growth matures you will start seeing the pseudobulb form. Same thing with Maxillarias and Lycastes which is where this group belongs to and usually the will bloom before the new growth is fully matured or so I've experienced.

RosieC 12-23-2009 04:54 PM

Thanks Rolando.

So basically once these flowers are gone the growths they are on should continue to mature and form p-bulbs.

I've just noticed that there is a tiny tiny shoot at the base of the plant that could be a brand new growth. :biggrin:

King_of_orchid_growing:) 12-23-2009 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RosieC (Post 279871)
Thanks King, that's good to know as I'm pretty new to orchids with p-bulbs in general.

Am I right in thinking that these 'lead growths' will develop p-bulbs or do the p-bulbs develop from somewhere else.

I've been watching my mounted Milt quite closely as it grows and I have seen growths of leaves only, which have then developed p-bulbs at the center pushing the leaves apart. Do these do something similar? (Sorry for the newbie question :blushing:)

Lead growths are the ones that will produce the pseudobulbs.

They'll do exactly what the Miltoniopsis did.

King_of_orchid_growing:) 12-23-2009 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RosieC (Post 279877)
Thanks Rolando.

So basically once these flowers are gone the growths they are on should continue to mature and form p-bulbs.

I've just noticed that there is a tiny tiny shoot at the base of the plant that could be a brand new growth. :biggrin:

Sometimes they multi-spike. Two at a time, as in simultaneously.

Most likely a new shoot. Told you they were cake and fast growing. :biggrin:

However...

If it's a shoot without spikes then it could be a spike...

RosieC 12-23-2009 05:19 PM

Brill :)

RosieC 12-23-2009 05:21 PM

As far as I can see the spikes are coming from between leaves near the base of the new growths. This new shoot is right at the base looking like it is coming from the Rhyzome.

Suresh Kalyanpur 12-24-2009 09:29 AM

That is a beauty Rosie. I love the colouring. I have also just bought my first Zygopetalium Mackaii very recently.

Sammy 12-27-2009 07:27 AM

Wow, she is pretty, where did you get her Rosie? The orchid selection in england is not to great in the uk garden centres!

also, where do you get your bark chips from?

RosieC 12-27-2009 07:40 AM

Hi Sammy,

I got it from Dobbies garden center. They are more a Noth of England shop I think and ours is one of the furthest south of their stores, not sure you will find them where you are.

Bark is easier. I get that online/mail order from 'Orchid Accessories'. You can ring them on the number on the website and they are very helpful. I have been very impressed by the quality of the bark and CHC that I bought from them, and very pleased by the knowledge of the people I spoke to.

Orchid Accessories - www.orchidaccessories.co.uk

Sammy 12-27-2009 08:21 AM

Brill, thanks Rosie, Happy new year and happy growing! x


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