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Uechi 07-09-2008 10:40 AM

Inquiry for warm growing, fragrant Coelogynes
 
I would appreciate a list of Coelogynes species that will do well in a warm growing environment ( Central Florida, Clearwater ) from experience forum members. It is my understanding that although most Coelogynes are intermediate to cool growers there are species that like intermediate to warm climates. I am particulary interested in species that are strongly fragrant. As always thanks for the help. Sources where they can be purchased would also be great. Regards

Chococatte 07-11-2008 12:41 PM

Orchidspecies.com will tell you which Coelogyne species are fragrant or not and they're growing temperature range requirements, geological regions were they're from and so on. You stroll down and click on the genus name of the orchid your interest in, under that genera, keep strolling to the specific species.

Uechi 07-12-2008 07:04 PM

Thanks for the response however, the reality is that Orchidspecies.com is a great web site but they have orchids shown as not fragrant that are. I prefer to rely on " hands on " orchid fanciers Orchid species photos are marvelous. The data needs some work. Regards.

erly 07-13-2008 11:42 PM

Hi Uechi.
I'm growing coelogyne. Especially borneo & celebes species. They do well in my garden. Mine would be coelogune cumingii, montleyii, pandurata, mayeriana, asperata, etc

Merlyn 07-14-2008 04:42 AM

Uechi,
I agree that IOSPE needs work on the culture side but the pix are FABULOUS !!

I'm growing 2 Coelogyne inside under lights but just started so I can't verify that they are warm growers like the sellers both said they were. I'll not forget to keep results posted as I've wanted Coelogyne ever since I first saw one and these are my first ! One's comingii and the other's a mossiae. Posted pix on my gallery.

:goodluck: Merlyn

Mike O'C 07-31-2008 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Uechi (Post 123643)
I would appreciate a list of Coelogynes species that will do well in a warm growing environment ( Central Florida, Clearwater ) from experience forum members. It is my understanding that although most Coelogynes are intermediate to cool growers there are species that like intermediate to warm climates. I am particulary interested in species that are strongly fragrant. As always thanks for the help. Sources where they can be purchased would also be great. Regards

Merlyn,
Try Coelogyne flaccida. It is easy to grow and flower and has such a strongly sweet scented perfume so as to give you a headache if you keep it indoors when flowering. I grow this species outside where temperatures range fro 2 to 40C. I grow it preferably in a clay pot in pine bark and in summer when temps go to 40C sometime I water often (sometimes every day). It is grown in about 40% sahde i.e. high light. I don't feed too often (about once every 1 - 2 months) and then use a "shotgun" (i.e. give it everything I have got) approach. Cannot really tell you which of my other Coelogynes are really perfumed.

Merlyn 08-01-2008 10:05 AM

I thank you for the input. I'm just starting into the Coelogyne addiction but wanted them from the beginning ! Got 3 now, comingii, mossiae, and South Carolina 'Maplewood'. The 'Maplewood' hasn't shown me its blooms yet but from pix looks a lot like pandurata, one I've ALWAYS drooled over !!

M-

Mike O'C 08-02-2008 11:43 AM

Merlyn,
do NOT be put off by what people say i.e. cooling growing. Give them a try. Grow them in clay pots which act as a built in evaporative cooling system. If you water (frequently when hot) do so in the afternoon so you create a drop in temperature at night.
Look for Coelogyne barbata, Coelogyne stricta (syn Coelogyne elata), Coelogyne mooreana, Coelogyne marmorata and Coelogyne cristata. I have not had a problem with these although I do not know if they are scented like Coelogyne flaccida. Enjoy them

Mike O'C 08-02-2008 12:14 PM

Merlyn,
Hope that I have got this right but I have tried to attach a thumbnail of Coelogyne flaccida. If it does not work go to my photo gallery to see what it looks like
http://www.orchidboard.com/community...e_flaccida.jpg

Merlyn 08-02-2008 09:06 PM

Thanks, got the thumbnail but "requires a password" to see the big pix ! That'a ok, I have 3 pix in my "from the net" collection ! It IS a beauty !! Twice over with a fragrance, I'll be on the quest !!

M-

Spider 08-04-2008 06:22 AM

Warm growing Coelogyne
 
:D I have a Coelogyne velutina and it is warm growing but I donīt know if it is sented as it hasnīt flowered for me yet. I have had it for just 1 year and it was very small then. It is a fast grower. It has one new bulb 10 cm tall and two new bulbs on the way up. i hope it will flower next year.

joule 08-04-2008 06:56 AM

My choice would be Coelogyne mooreana. It is a warm growing Coelogyne from Vietnam. Nice big white scented flowers.:)

Mike O'C 08-04-2008 07:47 AM

Uechi,
I must apologise. I thought that it was Merlyn who posted this thread initially. My most fragrant Coelogyne species is coelogyne flaccida. I have not gone to the trouble to check fragrance in the others but Coelogyne flaccida you just cannot miss the fragrance it is so strong. Some other Coelogynes which I would consider war growing and which should grow easily for you in florida are : coelogynes barbarta, stricta (sorry about the botrytis on the flowers! :-)), mooreana, marmorata, dayan, chloroptera and beccarii. I have tried to attach thumbnails to show you what they look like so that you can decide which you would like to try. Good luck
http://www.orchidboard.com/community...arbarta_02.jpg
http://www.orchidboard.com/community...gyne_elata.jpg
http://www.orchidboard.com/community..._mooreana1.jpg
http://www.orchidboard.com/community...marmorata1.jpg
http://www.orchidboard.com/community...yne_dayana.jpg
http://www.orchidboard.com/community...hloroptera.jpg
http://www.orchidboard.com/community...e_beccarii.jpg

David Morris 08-05-2008 11:35 AM

Coelogynes cool and warm
 
Someone mentioned flaccida which I consider to be coolish as well as unpleasent (to me) in the odor dept. The warm ones that I have that I am familiar with are:
Coelogyne confusa (no fragrance)
Coelogyne asperata (fragrance and big!)
Coelogyne pandurata (fragrance and big)
Coelogyne mooreana (fragrance)
Coelogyne assamica (fragrance an small also a little cool hardy)
Coelogyne flexuosa (no fragrance)
Coelogyne ruchosenii (massive fragrance very nice)
Coelogyne massangeana (fragrance)
Coelogyne calcicola (a little fragrant, not sure just how warm or cool hardy)
Coelogyne speciosa (some forms fragrant such as the large salmon colored from smells like homony (eew!))

Uechi 08-05-2008 12:52 PM

Thanks all

Merlyn 08-27-2011 07:34 PM

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Here I am, back after 3 years !! Been through a lot more experience with Coelogynes AND my new all time favorite = Catasetum alliance !!

As far as Coelogynes, I've cut down to ONE = the C. South Carolina 'Maplewood' !!! That's a keeper for me ! Have to divide it EVERY year as the leaf span gets to 3 feet and I'm an inside grower except during summer ! Haven't noticed a fragrance yet but who cares, the blooms just do it for me !! I said in an earlier post that it looked like a pandurata, well IT SHOULD because it's 75% pandurata !! It is DEFINITELY a warm grower !!

RJSquirrel 08-28-2011 07:16 AM

welcome back Merlyn :)

Catasetum's are nice growing plants and look great in bloom... I have 1 Catasetum and its done blooming and just sitting getting ready to go into whatever they do.
Something about Catasetum people I havent become too opinionated on..yet...but I think they are lazy orchid growers ;)
But good luck and enjoy your Spitting Orchid :)

Merlyn 08-28-2011 12:49 PM

LOL !! You're right RJ ! But I have to say the main thing is watching a teeny-tiny new growth bud grow to a 20" + beautiful plant and then BLOOM for me somehow manages to KNOCK MY SOCKS OFF !!!! EVERY TIME !!!!

Trey 09-02-2011 08:34 AM

Hello

I highly recommend Coelogyne odoardi. It is my favourite Coelogyne. I grow mine sitting in water, it is a Borneo endemic that is found in the lowlands there. The flowers are brownish-orange and are nicely fragrant.

There are incorrect identifications out there (including some in books!). This is a link to the SOF photo.

http://http://orchid.unibas.ch/phpMy...f/specimen.php

Cheers
Trey


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