Should I repot a mail-order phal in bloom?
Login
User Name
Password   


Registration is FREE. Click to become a member of OrchidBoard community
(You're NOT logged in)

menu menu

Sponsor
Donate Now
and become
Forum Supporter.

Should I repot a mail-order phal in bloom?
Many perks!
<...more...>


Sponsor
 

Google


Fauna Top Sites
Register Should I repot a mail-order phal in bloom? Members Should I repot a mail-order phal in bloom? Should I repot a mail-order phal in bloom? Today's PostsShould I repot a mail-order phal in bloom? Should I repot a mail-order phal in bloom? Should I repot a mail-order phal in bloom?
LOG IN/REGISTER TO CLOSE THIS ADVERTISEMENT
Go Back   Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web ! > >
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-17-2017, 10:28 AM
Mountaineer370 Mountaineer370 is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Mar 2017
Zone: 6a
Location: SE Michigan
Posts: 1,704
Should I repot a mail-order phal in bloom? Female
Default Should I repot a mail-order phal in bloom?

Any of you who have read my posts know I'm a newbie, having only gotten my first orchid a couple years ago. I've read conflicting information on this topic. I've tried a search on the forum, but without reading hundreds of posts, I'm having a hard time finding an answer to this specific question. So please forgive me if this has been covered many times before!

I recently got brave and ordered my very first plant by mail. It's from a well-known and well-respected vendor who is a member of this board, and I am very happy with the experience so far. It is a Phal. Liu's Berry, which is a compact. It has two spikes, is in bloom, and has a few unopened buds, one of which has blasted, but I'm hopeful for the others. The plant itself looks very happy and healthy.

It is in a three-inch or so pot, the clear, very soft plastic, with just one drain hole at the bottom, which I am sure is not meant to be any type of permanent container. It appears to be in tight moss. It has quite a few air roots, but I am unable to see any of the roots in the pot.

I would like to get it into a better draining pot and enable it to get more air flow around the roots. Should I repot it now or wait until it's done blooming? I'm afraid the flowers could last a long time, and that it may be bad for the roots to leave it in its shipping pot for that long.

What do you guys typically do when you receive a plant in the mail like this?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-17-2017, 11:16 AM
Subrosa's Avatar
Subrosa Subrosa is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jul 2013
Zone: 6b
Location: PA coal country
Posts: 3,373
Should I repot a mail-order phal in bloom? Male
Default

I transitioned my Sweet Memory to semi-hydroponic culture the day it arrived in bud ready to pop. That bloom went off without a hitch and the next one just opened about a week ago. Not a problem if you really feel you need to.
__________________
Be who you are and say what you think. Those who matter don't mind and those who mind don't matter.
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 2 Likes
Likes Mountaineer370, Orchid Whisperer liked this post
  #3  
Old 04-17-2017, 11:39 AM
jkofferdahl jkofferdahl is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: May 2008
Zone: 7b
Location: Smyrna, Georgia
Age: 67
Posts: 3,014
Default

I've grown many plants in the same pot and sphagnum, but it can be a bit tricky to judge watering. If you repot it, so so in bark. You can't hurt a Phal by repotting it in bloom.
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 2 Likes
Likes Mountaineer370, Orchid Whisperer liked this post
  #4  
Old 04-17-2017, 11:42 AM
AnonYMouse's Avatar
AnonYMouse AnonYMouse is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jun 2012
Zone: 9b
Location: SF Bay Area, CA
Posts: 2,318
Default

If I'm feeling particularly lazy, I'll just peek in the moss. If the roots look good, I pop the whole thing in a net pot (which is what I eventually do).
__________________
Anon Y Mouse

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." Hanlon’s Razor

I am not being argumentative. I am correcting you!

LoL Since when is science an opinion?
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes Mountaineer370 liked this post
  #5  
Old 04-17-2017, 11:52 AM
Dollythehun Dollythehun is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Aug 2016
Zone: 6a
Location: Northern Indiana
Posts: 5,540
Should I repot a mail-order phal in bloom? Female
Default

I make it a habit to repot as soon as I bring the plant home. I recently ordered a miniature that was in a clear plastic pot, as you describe. I replaced the moss with fine bark, and used the same clear pot, so I could watch the roots and it has been fine.
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes Mountaineer370 liked this post
  #6  
Old 04-17-2017, 02:40 PM
Mountaineer370 Mountaineer370 is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Mar 2017
Zone: 6a
Location: SE Michigan
Posts: 1,704
Should I repot a mail-order phal in bloom? Female
Default

Thanks everybody! I did go ahead and put it in a pot that was an inch or so bigger in diameter. Clear plastic, but the firmer type, not like the soft one it was in. Put it in medium bark, which is what my other phals are in.

(Ree, I thought about what you suggested, just putting the whole thing into a net pot, which would certainly provide more air movement, but I don't have one of those handy and there's no place around here to buy them.)

I think I did the right thing, as the moss was packed pretty tightly and there was just no way to get a look at what was down inside. It was still pretty wet in there. So far, I don't have anything else in moss, and I don't trust myself to know when that type of medium needs watering.

The roots were in pretty good shape, but there were a few that had to be cut off. That brings up another question. Some of them were damaged partway up, to the point where touching them caused that velamen to just slide right off, leaving the tough, stringy center, but the part above that still seemed firm and green. (Please forgive my incorrect terminology -- I'm still learning!) So when a root gets damaged, does that always mean the entire root will die, or can they heal at the damaged end and still be viable?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-17-2017, 03:57 PM
jkofferdahl jkofferdahl is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: May 2008
Zone: 7b
Location: Smyrna, Georgia
Age: 67
Posts: 3,014
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mountaineer370 View Post
The roots were in pretty good shape, but there were a few that had to be cut off. That brings up another question. Some of them were damaged partway up, to the point where touching them caused that velamen to just slide right off, leaving the tough, stringy center, but the part above that still seemed firm and green. (Please forgive my incorrect terminology -- I'm still learning!) So when a root gets damaged, does that always mean the entire root will die, or can they heal at the damaged end and still be viable?
The roots were damaged by root rot, which most often occurs when plants are overwatered. It's easy to overwater in those clear plastic pots filled with sphagnum. Roots which have rotted to where the velamin slips off the root itself are pretty much done from that point, but above where the damage occurred they can grow back. Same with when you clip them back; where there is still healthy root the plant will try to find a way to utilize that root, and it may develop a new shoot. You can even get multiple new shoots from a broken/died back root. A key to getting them to do this is to be a bit stingy with water for a while, which forces the roots to grow in an attempt to find more water.
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 3 Likes
  #8  
Old 04-17-2017, 03:09 PM
Dollythehun Dollythehun is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Aug 2016
Zone: 6a
Location: Northern Indiana
Posts: 5,540
Should I repot a mail-order phal in bloom? Female
Default

I'm not going to address your root question. I am going to suggest that you get an attractive tote bin and start stockpiling supplies. Different barks, labels, hangers, pots, etc. When you see something, pick it up and put it in the bin. Even when you don't need it, you might next week. I can't tell you how often I have been glad for my stash. I buy from repotme and find my clay pots at JoAnne and Lowe's among other places. I think you should leave the little inside strings as they help.hold the plant. I am not sure about regeneration and I hate appearing stupid.😁
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 2 Likes
Likes Mountaineer370, greenpassion liked this post
  #9  
Old 04-17-2017, 03:26 PM
Mountaineer370 Mountaineer370 is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Mar 2017
Zone: 6a
Location: SE Michigan
Posts: 1,704
Should I repot a mail-order phal in bloom? Female
Default

Oh, yes, I totally agree about starting to assemble a stash of orchid supplies! I have a few things, but not nearly enough. I guess I'm a little hesitant only because I know my collection of orchids will have to stay quite small, and at this point, I'm also wondering if I'm going to actually have any success with the ones I have. So that's fair warning to all of you that you can expect more newbie questions to be coming along soon!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-17-2017, 03:42 PM
Dollythehun Dollythehun is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Aug 2016
Zone: 6a
Location: Northern Indiana
Posts: 5,540
Should I repot a mail-order phal in bloom? Female
Default

They have put up with me.. they will certainly put up with you! Just try to match the plants to your conditions and not visa versa and you will be fine!
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 2 Likes
Likes bil, Mountaineer370 liked this post
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
mail, plant, pot, roots, time


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
patented or trademarked orchids. pinkham Propagation 49 06-03-2012 06:17 PM
Phal schilleriana help Melody Beginner Discussion 20 05-18-2012 08:56 PM
Lodged roots... trying to repot a phal peeper Potting & Repotting 8 11-06-2011 06:44 PM
Florida Cymbidiums orchids3 Cymbidium Alliance 21 07-23-2010 09:34 AM
Should I repot ASAP cattleyas from mail order? Lindanc Beginner Discussion 10 12-01-2007 04:44 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:36 AM.

© 2007 OrchidBoard.com
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.37 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Clubs vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.