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Old 11-24-2013, 11:03 AM
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I hope this is the right forum (Potting & Repotting) for this post - it is about mounts, rather than potting and re-potting, but I did see some posts about mounts here. Moderators, please move if this is in the wrong place.

I currently grow just a few plants on mounts. I have a small Dendrobium crumenatum (From Kevin_PR), a Dinema polybulbon, and a Tolumnia hybrid. [edited later: forgot a Scaphyglottis graminifola that's also on a mount]

I frequently take the dogs hiking in some local woods, and occasionally come across some interesting pieces of wood that I think would make interesting mounts. I also find some interesting wood while fishing (fresh water drift wood), or even in my own back yard. I like the mounts that I see that others have made and that have live moss established on them, and hope to establish moss on many of my mounts.

I thought I would post some pictures of some of the mounts that I've found, attached mounting hardware to, and am in the process of establishing moss on. Doing some reading online, one option for attaching moss is sticking it on with a little diluted white glue (such as Elmer's), so that is what I have done.

Below are photos of mount number 1. I retrieved it from a cut tree stump; type of wood unknown, but I think possibly oak. It is big (nearly 2 feet long), very heavily ridged, but very thin:

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The photo on the left is the front view. The one on the right shows the back, "hardware" is just electrical wire (also comparison to another smaller mount that weighs pretty much the same). I have reinforced the back with some glue stick, because it is so thin (I later added even more glue stick reinforcement to the back).

Here is the mount after some moss (taken from fallen logs) was attached to the mount:

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I plan to keep this mount outdoors until the moss grows and becomes well-established (that could require many months, possibly a year(?)). During the winter, I plan to spray a few times per week with rain water, increasing to daily spraying when the weather is warm.

So, I am looking for some suggestions here:

1. I am thinking of this mount for a small but rapidly-spreading (keiki-producing) Phalaenopsis. Possibly P. pulchra, but are there other Phal species that also freely form stem keikis that I should consider? If not a Phalaenopsis, what would you grow on it if it was yours?

2. Does the method for establishing the moss sound OK to those of you that have done something similar? What might you suggest to do this differently, or improve moss growth?

3. Planning for a year from now: I grow indoors during the winter. To keep mossy mounts growing well, I was thinking of adding another shelf to my grow light stand & keeping the mounts with moss inside some empty aquariums to keep the humidity up. Any comments or alternative suggestions?

I am creating more mounts, will post those in separate threads later on. I look forward to any comments or suggestions you may have.

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Old 11-24-2013, 04:11 PM
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Since you do not know the type of wood, let the bottom of the mount sit in some water for 24 hours. Then take your fingernail and see if you can make an indention in the wood. If you can't it is probably a suitable hard wood mount to use. If you make a mark on the wood then it is a soft wood and will quickly disintegrate when watered daily.

The aquarium sounds fine but you will also need to water the moss daily to keep it alive.

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Thanks for the great advice Brooke! I will definitely try the scratch test and also appreciate the advice on watering.

Other than Phal pulchra, are there other phal species with a similar growth habit (spreading, lots of keikis)?
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My Phal pulchra is about my only one that makes as many keikis as flowers. Most of my Phals do the basal growth thing. I have two stem keikis on bastianii right now but this is the first time it has ever produced the stem growths. It has at least two basal growths, is several years old but has decided to try stem babies.

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P deliciosa makes stem keikis...but not as prolific as pulchra.
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Thanks Brooke & Katrina. The species recommendations are appreciated.

I researched it a bit, & apparently P. lueddemanniana is also supposed to make many keikis. P. pulchra was originally considered a sub-species of lueddemanniana.

Too cold now to be ordering new Phals through the mail, but these species are hitting the wish list. Big Leaf has a P. pulchra and a deliciosa that look promising (dangerously nice selection of other species there, too). I probably need to find homes for some NOIDs to make some room!
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I probably need to find homes for some NOIDs to make some room!
OR...get another shelf! Actually, if you're going to mount them...build a mount stand w/a light over it.
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Oh, Katrina, believe me, adding another shelf or 2 is in the long-term plan!

Right now, my indoor plant stand has some of that white plastic lattice that is meant for decks, screening, etc. outdoors, mounted to the back of the stand. My mounts hang on that, under one of the fluorescent T8s.

The plan for next year, add another (3rd) shelf to the existing plant stand (mine is designed so that I can expand it easily). Lights will go under the lower shelf, too, room below that for aquariums with mossy mounts, also nursery space for developing seedlings.

I have some NOIDs I will always keep. I have other NOIDs that, well, they are nice, but nothing special. One given to me by someone who did not know what to do when it was finished blooming, for example (and it makes keikis occasionally, so I now have 3 of them). Great to give to a beginner - a white Phal that blooms reliably each year, but the plant is huge. Who needs a NOID Phal that is nearly 2 feet across?? I will probably keep the best of those 3, at least for now. I have another NOID Phal nearly as big, but I like the blooms better, will definitely keep.
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I know the pulchra/leuddemaniana subspecies thing but I have three leudde and none of them have ever produced a keiki, basal or stem. Get the leudde because you love it but don't count on keiki machine.

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Agreed Brooke.

I have some other mounts that might work for the P. Lueddemanniana. I will post about those later on. Some are made of weathered 'heart of pine'- I know that sounds soft, but it is actually close to rock hard. Weathered is a must for this material, as it is highly resinous when fresh (the weathered surface is non-resinous). Heart of pine is also called 'Georgia fatwood' or 'fatlighter'; when fresh, it is used as a fire starter.

Oh, and it's been raining cats & dogs on that mount for nearly a day - I'll try the scratch test tonight on mount #1.
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