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Old 12-12-2014, 12:20 PM
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Sorry about the way your dogs are. It's more then with "allergies" now that's mean or that they live in a dusty place full with dust mites or the probably more common reson your dogs have FLIES or blood suckers beneath their's skin please take them to a veteran this explain the red belly those blood eating insect are toxins your poor dogs!!! 😱
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Old 12-12-2014, 12:37 PM
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Sorry about the way your dogs are. It's more then with "allergies" now that's mean or that they live in a dusty place full with dust mites or the probably more common reson your dogs have FLIES or blood suckers beneath their's skin please take them to a veteran this explain the red belly those blood eating insect are toxins your poor dogs!!! 😱
As a person who has owned SEVERAL allergy dogs over the past 20 years, I can tell you that you're incorrect. Allergies are actually more common than fleas these days. Flea preventatives have gotten inexpensive and very effective.

I have known the poster your comments are directed at since I joined this forum and have spoken with her privately about her dogs' allergies. She has already done everything that can be done to abate their allergies. The fact that her dog is on prednisone should have told you that she has already seen a vet.

This thread is supposed to be judgment free. Let's keep it that way.
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Old 12-12-2014, 01:47 PM
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I living next to a vet and you can be right but unless you have a wish to collect allergy dogs the chance that they all be ill is very small. All of us have allergies or sensitivity to being exposed to lets say dust mite the difference between a "allergy" to healty human is that a "allergy" one suffering the symptoms from less material then a healthy one. And you will be suprised hiw many time its blood insect that can even deegs into the dog skin. And even if they are really apparently allergy dogs the are step of getting rid of the problematic material and extra cleaning. My intention is not to hurt any one i have been working 2 years in dog shelter and had my own. So I'm trying only to help. Sometimes someone else that you don't know have the right answer to your question. I didn't ask what does she feed them or is she caring them for basic needs.
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Old 12-12-2014, 02:42 PM
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Have you considered TikiCat cat food? I tried to feed it to Porter, but we found out pretty fast that Porter is intolerant of fish and almost all of the TikiCat foods contain some form of fish. TikiCat is what Jackson Galaxy recommends as his preferred diet and you can mail order the stuff from Amazon or Petflow by the case.

As far as cats being afraid of outside, I hear you. Porter is also a rescue. My daughter adopted him from the shelter last year. He hates one of my dogs, but not the other. We have no idea why. When we adopted him, Porter had an infected wound in his shoulder that the shelter's vet had been trying to heal. It was from a fight with another cat. He'd lived outside for so long that he has clipped ears from all the cat fights he's been in and we know Porter was a tough customer. Cats don't make it to his age outside unless they are.

Now, Porter will not willingly go outside now that he has experienced the life of a dedicated house cat. He wants nothing to do with it, so the key to keeping his weight down is a process called "catification." Jackson Galaxy, again. He's awesome. He just put a book out about his catification technique. What it is, in a nutshell is designing your interior living space so that your cats have the ability to climb more and burn more calories. It involves using cat trees and putting up shelves on the walls... That sort of thing. It's fun to do and it saves us from the stress of taking Porter out on lead.
I have not tried that brand.
My cats are not super fond of fish though.
They don't eat my leftover salmon, or ahi, or swordfish.
It's weird.

I'm leaning towards individually tailored meals. The owner of my local store, and vet are helping me map out meal plans, and we're going to try out several different food types.

My oldest cat is a poorly bred flame point Himalayan. Named Mango. He's 14 now, I got him when he was 8. His previous owner was, quite frankly, a coked out drunk.
He was fed a steady diet of cheapest food from the grocery, continuously forgotten outside, and taught to go to the bathroom on towels. Because litter was too expensive.
He'll only accept dry kibble, and maybe a single bite of whatever protein I'm eating. I'd really love to get his weight up a little in his old age. He doesn't like strong meat flavors, and barely grazes wet food.
He refused to be leash trained, but that's ok. His greatest joy is sleeping in the sun in my backyard. And it took over a year to redirect his bathroom attempts to the litter box and not our rugs.
Even now he'd rather wait patiently by the cat door for us to let him in to the litter box, than actually go in himself.

The middle cat is Dio. I found him and his brother in a bush, eyes not even open.
I ended up staking out all day looking for mama cat. I finally decided she wasn't coming. And took them with me. I found mama cat squished on the road about 40 feet away. His brother didn't make it through the week.
He's fully trained, and incredibly intelligent. Which is annoying honestly. When a cat matches your wit.

We go for long walks and runs, and he loves to play. A superb hunter.
He's also huge. Bigger than most of my previous Maine coons. At 30 pounds I think he needs to lose weight. I'm working with my vet to find a good target weight, but we don't agree on how much.
I say he's in need of 5 pounds off, but my vet says only 2 or 3. And that he is not a Maine coon, and I shouldn't try and hold his body to their breed standards lol.
He's much more accepting of actual meats. But his tastes match his hunting instincts, no birds or fish. Red meat always!

The last cat is Dorian. I got him on impulse while buying fish.
He was hiding behind his brothers, trying not to draw attention, while casting sidelong glances of extreme suspicion.

When I was 8 my family adopted an 11 year old cat who had been declawed front and back. She hated everyone vehemently. And turned out to be an incredibly sweet cat. I loved her, and she started lifelong affinity for suspicious angry cats.

So I took Dorian home with me. He was about 10 weeks. He came with gardia, promptly gave it to Dio and Mango.
His early infection left him with a somewhat delicate digestive system, and rancid farts.
He's timid and shy. But once he warms up he's incredibly cuddly. Overbearingly so... And a total dare devil spitfire. Except with the outside world. Leash training is slow, and he jumps into my arms and buries his face into my chest at every little noise. Even when I leave the backdoor open he prefers to sit right on the step and go no further.
He loves fish and bird. But not red meat.
He's also incredibly small. He's not grown past 6 pounds.
His small size and delicate digestion are his major curveballs.

I'm hoping that working with my vet and the stores new options, we can work out an optimal diet routine for all of them.

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Old 12-17-2014, 12:17 PM
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I living next to a vet and you can be right but unless you have a wish to collect allergy dogs the chance that they all be ill is very small. All of us have allergies or sensitivity to being exposed to lets say dust mite the difference between a "allergy" to healty human is that a "allergy" one suffering the symptoms from less material then a healthy one. And you will be suprised hiw many time its blood insect that can even deegs into the dog skin. And even if they are really apparently allergy dogs the are step of getting rid of the problematic material and extra cleaning. My intention is not to hurt any one i have been working 2 years in dog shelter and had my own. So I'm trying only to help. Sometimes someone else that you don't know have the right answer to your question. I didn't ask what does she feed them or is she caring them for basic needs.
Roey, thank you very much for trying to help, I know you mean well. As RandomGemini has stated we have privately talked about our dog troubles so she knows what I have been through. The Turtle has been to the vet so many times I can't remember. I have had her ears flushed at least 5 times. Also swabs sent out for testing I don't even remember how many times.

She has both yeast and bacteria in her ears. I call her my free ( as I got her from the shelter) $5000 dollar dog. I have put a fortune into her. I have come very close to putting her down because she was so miserable. Since she is on prednisone she is feeling so much better and now is having a much better life. I am continuing to doctor her ears. Oh and I also have been to 3 different vets with her.

Marlo, my other dog that had allergies, as I stated. I put her on a raw diet and she has never had them again, and I think it has been at least 3 years ago.

So thank you for your help. I too donated my time at the shelter, I did it for 15 years.
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Old 12-21-2014, 12:02 PM
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Thank you for starting this thread, Randomgemini. This is a topic I'm very passionate about, to the point where my friends and family think I'm a psycho neurotic pet owner. I had 2 Shi Tzus growing up, on Science Diet kibble. One died painfully at 11 yrs. The other, I tried to do homemade food for, during the last 3 yrs of her life due to health issues. I did not know the importance of supplements to home made food back then and our vet never told us about it either. After 14 yrs, she was in too much misery so I had to put her to sleep I was so angry at myself for not doing enough research in the beginning to give them better health and longer lives.

Now I have 2 rescue mutts and I'm very careful about their diet. Yuuki is a rat terrier/pug mix (?) and came to me in 2010 with disgusting ears and mouth. I started him on Primal Raw Frozen Formula. I alternated between pheasant, venison and duck. The treats he got were dehydrated organ meats or just steamed veggies. And once a week, he got a raw bison marrow bone to clean his teeth. He got really trim and muscular on this diet for a whole year. When I got Jojo, I started him off with a good quality kibble and canned food mix because he had stomach issues. Poor Yuuki thought the canned food was so deelish that he actually ate Jojo's poop!

After that, I found a food called Freshpet Vital refrigerated rolls (not the raw one). They both love it and have been on it for a few years. Last time I cleaned their ears was over a year ago. They get treats without corn or potato in it. And still get their once a week raw marrow bone. A few times a month, they get raw grass fed steak with pureed organic veggies. Sure, I'm completely nuts, but they are so healthy. The only vet visits are for nail trims and regular wellness check ups. Even the vet was curious about what they ate. But I agree with what was mentioned earlier. There's no ONE food for every dog. You just have to try things out and find what works for your furry one.

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Old 12-22-2014, 02:21 AM
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Exactly! Thank you for sharing your experience!
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