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Old 12-26-2016, 07:42 PM
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Yes, toxicity to animals and kids is one thing (when you're growing ornamentals anyway) but toxicity to plants themselves, well that would be problematic...

Looked up Corry's etc... main ingredient is sodium ferric edta, toxicity concern same as sluggo/ sodium phosphate (the edta)... but along the lines of effectiveness, I guess the question is if it reliably attracts the slugs/snails...?
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remembered about this thread...

Well I can confirm for sure that sluggo (iron phosphate) isn't so effective after all... as my grow tanks have gotten stuffed with plants problem has been getting worse. ugh.

AND I just tried dry ice aka CO2 bombing all my tanks and bush snails still come out at night. I may try repeated attempts but not sure.

Afraid to use something like chemicals on my grow tanks as Sevin...

any other ideas?!
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remembered about this thread...

Well I can confirm for sure that sluggo (iron phosphate) isn't so effective after all... as my grow tanks have gotten stuffed with plants problem has been getting worse. ugh.

AND I just tried dry ice aka CO2 bombing all my tanks and bush snails still come out at night. I may try repeated attempts but not sure.

Afraid to use something like chemicals on my grow tanks as Sevin...

any other ideas?!
I used Metaldehyde and I got rid of snails very quickly.
You do not want to use chemicals, but you still want to get rid of snails?
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I cultivate mosses and other plants that could retain chemicals, and these mosses and such I shift around to animal tanks, so gets risky. Plus I sorta want to have some sort of rounded ecology in all of the tanks to keep other pests in balance (ie keep springtails alive, etc.).

Obviously, if bush snails keep wrecking flowers and new growths than it may be more a priority to kill them to make all the $$ into mini orchids more worthwhile...

So what's the verdict on metaldehyde and sevin in actually attracting snails to them? I'm thinking maybe I can fix up some sort of bait stations that can be removed if they actually attract them? (As naoki pointed out iron phosphate products don't actually attract them for instance)
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I have tried Metaldehyde , Sluggo, CO2, and submergence -- none proved effective against bush snails. Problems with the first two, from what I have read, does indeed come down to the fact that bush snails are not attracted to the bait. CO2's failure, I suspect, may indicate an ability for the snails to survive lower O2 levels than many other organisms or their ability to windup in little pockets of air in the media that the Co2 is unable to displace. Tried soaking some moss from an infested terr hoping to kill the snails but not the moss. Soaked submerged for 24hrs or so. Kept the moss isolated after draining the water. Several weeks later, checked the moss and did find a live snail. Slimy buggers are survivors. I finally tore the tank down, removed and disposed of all media, cleaned the media off all plants, rinsed them well, then isolated the plants in a small spare tank for several weeks. Thoroughly cleaned the tank then put it back together. So far no snails. Hope it stays that way as it was a royal pain in the butt going through all that.
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Try food grade Diatomaceous Earth. It works on all other pests. Thing is you've got to keep it dry. Sprinkle or 'paint' it on leaves, buds. It's chemical free.
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I have tried Metaldehyde , Sluggo, CO2, and submergence -- none proved effective against bush snails. Problems with the first two, from what I have read, does indeed come down to the fact that bush snails are not attracted to the bait.
the best treatment I have seen for bush snails is to blend metaldehyde with damp wheat germ, which they are apparently attracted to.
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Thanks all, appreciate the help!

orchidsarefun, I could try that outside but sounds like won't work in my tanks, way too moist in there and regular sprayings.

Paul, I so sympathize. It's sad to tear apart what could be a whole little system for these little buggers... after two long doses of CO2 treatments two nights in a row, I've just been looking at those tiny pieces of_____ meandering about even today. I do think there are less though but before you know it a few surviving would bring them back to a lot again... ugh...

Thanks Ray, I'm not a cook but I assume wheat germ is for cooking? just have to make it to the supermarket... if that'll actually attract them than even better I can experiment with traps using the metaldehyde, iron phosphate, or carbaryl.
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