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Old 12-12-2008, 06:54 AM
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As some of you have already noticed, there are numerous orchid society websites that are rather shoddy. These websites reflect poorly on their orchid societies because they are rarely (if ever) updated, navigation is confusing, and their design is hard on the eyes.

Just recently I created a group for my Orchid Society on Flickr and it dawned on me that a flickr group can function as an orchid society website.

Here are a few benefits of utilizing a flickr group as the society’s website…
  1. It’s free.
  2. Easier to update. Usually, one person is in charge of updating the orchid society website and they have to know HTML. In the flickr group anybody can announce an upcoming presentation or event without having to know HTML.
  3. Photo sharing. Orchid society members can add their photos to their orchid society group.
  4. Forums. Each group comes with its own forums.
  5. Standardized layout makes navigation easier.
  6. RSS Feeds. Subscribe to receive new forum posts and new orchid photos uploaded by society members.
  7. Networking. Internal messaging and commenting system makes it easier to get to know other society members.
  8. Officer system. Flickr groups already have a built in admin system for society officers.
Orchid societies are great…but they only meet once a month. During that month most hobbyists will have orchids bloom and have orchid related questions. Even if the orchid society has a decent website, a flickr orchid society group can provide a great resource for society members to share photos and exchange information at any time. A flickr orchid society group would differ from a traditional orchid forum in that the group would primarily be for local orchid society members.

Additionally, for those orchid hobbyists who don’t live anywhere near an orchid society…it would be easy enough to start a local orchid society by creating a flickr group for orchid hobbyists who live in their general vicinity. Then it would just be a matter of publicizing their new society.

MySpace and Facebook are other popular sites that also provide much of the same group functionality as flickr…but they focus more on the social networking side of things while flickr focuses more on photo sharing.

Speaking of flickr... here’s a couple of sets I recently uploaded…
Orchid Society of Santa Barbara Show
Orchids at the San Diego Zoo
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Great idea

You can also check out this option:
http://www.orchidboard.com/community...s-read-up.html

When I was more involved with our local club, I tried to get folks involved but the majority of them couldn't be bothered, as is the story with many clubs.

Good luck with your group
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A couple days ago I created a facebook page for my local orchid society...and now I'm scratching my head wondering if I shouldn't have also created a facebook group for my society.

Looks like facebook groups provide all the same functionality as flickr groups...with flickr having the obvious advantage in terms of photo features...while facebook has the advantage in terms of posting events..and...?

Currently, there are only around 5 facebook pages for orchid societies while there are several dozen facebook groups for orchid societies. Does anybody have any insights on whether a facebook page or facebook group would offer more utility for an orchid society?
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Create a facebook group; you can block persons posting unwanted content.
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It is historically interesting. Facebook is for old people.
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Haha, how did this ancient thread get found? Maybe jpearce4 is a professional online archaeologist?

In retrospect I should have created a FB group for the Orchid Society of Southern California. Or maybe a FB group for the Orchid Society of California. Or perhaps a FB group for the Epiphyte Society of America!? It's hard to guess the optimal level of specificity.

I ended up creating a general plant FB group for people in my area. It's got around 2k members and several of the plant friends I've had for many years participate. There are a couple annoying exceptions who refuse to join FB. I suspect they fear being found by crazy exes. But it's not like my recalcitrant friends would have to use their real names!

Sadly, now it seems like more and more of the cool plant kids just post on Instagram. Problem is that IG doesn't have a group function.

Really the main issue is adaptability. One of my fav examples is the online nursery Mountain Orchids. The owner primarily sells Begonias, heh, which clearly wasn't his original objective. But evidently he started selling more and more Begonias. Not that there was less demand for orchids... it was probably that there were more than enough online nurseries selling orchids, such as Andy's Orchids.

I remember back in the day visiting Andy's. His workers would regularly remove the "weeds" from the mounts and throw them away. I'd joke with Andy that I'd be happy to help him "weed" for free, since his "weeds" were some of my fav fav plants... ferns, Gesneriads, Peperomias, Begonias and so on. Eventually he started selling more and more of his "weeds". Now I wouldn't be surprised if 20% of the plants he sells at his nursery are non-orchids.

In terms of forums... the three main ones I visit with any regularity are PalmTalk, Agaveville and Tropical Fruit Forum. To be clear, I'm not a big fan of palms, but the forum has a category for non-palms that has decent participation. And fortunately Agaveville isn't dedicated to just Agaves, which I'm not a big fan of either.

Almost a decade ago I joined a forum dedicated to epiphytic ant plants. I completely failed to persuade them to broaden the focus to epiphytes in general. They were so confident that there was enough interest in epiphytic ant plants to generate decent participation. Nope.

What about the Orchid Board? I think that, prior to FB, I was regularly participating in like maybe three or four orchid forums? Ended up getting banned from one, and another went extinct...

Way too many admins of FB groups are way too fast to ban people, but then those banished people end up creating their own groups, because it's the easiest thing to do. So now I can't even keep track of how many "local" and/or "outdoor" orchid FB groups I'm in. But if I'm going to post something about orchids I usually just do so in my own general plant group.

For me personally, I guess the Orchid Board would be more useful if it broadened the focus to include orchid companions. Who among us doesn't have at least 1 Hoya? Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if I now have more Hoyas than orchids. Ok, I guess that I'd be a little surprised. Maybe I have more aroids than orchids?

Useful for me vs useful for us... and which "us"? Perhaps most of the "here us" are happy enough with the status quo. But I'm sure that the "not here us" represents a much larger group.

It's incredibly easy to create polls in FB groups, but I doubt that there's a single one that's a democracy. Therefore, democracy is only better than dictatorships when leaving the group is very difficult?

As far as I can tell, the best way to make group decisions is to use donations. If the status quo side donates more money to the Orchid Board, then no pivot.

Of course in theory I should donate to the OB anyways, given that it's useful having access to my old threads. It's pretty sad that my threads on the extinct orchid forum are lost like tears in rain. But I don't donate because I gamble that the ads will keep the OB alive. It's not the safest bet though so I'd be happy for a good excuse to donate.
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The "Off Topic - Totally" sub forum has lots of threads about the non-orchids that people grow and love. One of the great things about OB is that those ancient threads - and the information that they contain - are still there and show up in searches. To me, FB for orchids is just about pretty pictures... real information is in short supply, and hard to find. Even the pretty pictures get hard to find in a short time. The attention span on FB seems to be about a nanosecond.
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